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move out and back in. She said the Butterfly Lot was a good site but was concerned about impacts on the <br />Farmers Market during construction. <br /> <br />Ms. Bettman observed that some forum participants viewed the City Hall as a mixed-use development and <br />re-emphasized that mixed-use did not have to happen all in the same building or even all in the same block; <br />it just needed to be in proximity. She did not believe the City as a public entity should be creating an unfair <br />competitive field for the businesses that were in downtown and would likely benefit by the public investment <br />by creating more competition that was publicly subsidized. She was opposed to commercial space within <br />City Hall. <br /> <br />Mr. Papé commended the design team for its work. He hoped that media representatives at the work session <br />would digest the agenda materials and get word out to the community that there was objective documented <br />evidence to support pursuing specific options. He was not ready to eliminate the Sears site and asked <br />whether the current City Hall site or the Sears site was more ready for development. Mr. Penwell said that <br />site preparation was a very small percentage of the overall project cost and not a significant factor. <br /> <br />Mr. Papé asserted his interest in continuing to consider the Sears site as an option because of its location. <br /> <br />Mr. Hacker commented that work of the design team suggested that private mixed-use development was <br />easier and more attractive on sites that were very close to central public transportation. He said the library <br />also made the Sears site more attractive for housing than the current City Hall site. He said keeping the <br />Sears site as an active option could potentially scare away private developers, which the City wanted to <br />avoid, but he favored retaining it as a possibility if the proposed development did not happen. The design <br />team believed the Sears site was better as a private development than as a public development because it <br />would provide a mix of urban activities in off-hours and weekends that a public facility would not. He felt <br />the City would benefit more from private development of the Sears site. <br /> <br />Mr. Papé asked if any public entity had entered into an “air space” arrangement where a block was <br />developed with mixed-use on the ground floor and public offices such as City Hall above that. Mr. Hacker <br />replied that public entities had done that but he was not aware of any projects that included a city hall. City <br />Manager Taylor and Mr. Cohen offered examples of that type of development with a library as the public <br />function. <br /> <br />In response to a question from Mayor Piercy, Mr. Hacker said that the Sears site could be added for <br />consideration at a later date if the council wished to move the two recommended sites to the conceptual <br />design phase. He explained that conceptual design was a vehicle to identify the various issues and <br />understand their implications for both full block and half block sites. He said that would not prevent the <br />council from choosing an entirely different site either for study or for the city hall. He said a full schematic <br />design process would follow the conceptual design. <br /> <br />Ms. Taylor asked if conceptual designs for full and half blocks could be done without specific sites. Mr. <br />Hacker replied that conceptual design was not completely abstract and it was necessary to understand street <br />direction and capacities, public access and other factors as related to a particular site. He said an entirely <br />abstract process would not teach the kinds of things the design team and council needed to know. He said <br />the assumption was that Site 8 or Site 9, or possibly the Sears site if private development did not occur, <br />would be the eventual site of the new City Hall and the conceptual design would assist the council in making <br />the final site selection. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br />MINUTES—City Council September 20, 2006 Page 4 <br /> Work Session <br /> <br />