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<br />Mr. Brown said costs in tneU-lnaustr.y-nad increased more than- 30% and that Sani-pac stood <br />ready to make any information that was needed available. However, they couldn't afford <br />to wait on a full scale investigation if garbage was to be moved. Action on the matter <br />j was needed now, he said. _ <br /> <br />Councilman williams asked if the information to .be provided would include .difference <br />in cost between providing commercial and residential services. Mr. Brown noted the <br />difference in operations, the residential collection service requiring a higher invest- <br />ment in labor than in equipment. Information in that regard was given to city staff, <br />he said, but staff was requesting statistical information for comparison between 1971 <br />and 1974 pickup rate which was not available on all companies comprising Sani-pac. <br /> <br />Councilman McDonald asked then whether Sani-Pac could be expected to "pu11 out" if the <br />increase was not approved. Mr. Brown answered that the firm couldn't stop collecting <br />refuse. His point was that it was the same as any other business, and at the present <br />time they were operating at "more than 100% of dollar income." <br /> <br />Councilman Keller asked if figures were available on the, amount. of residential garbage <br />collected compared to that collected from commercial establishments. He wondered if th=- <br />- - -- ~ -,- -- <br />higher commercial rate increase, which he thought was exorbitant, was requested to offset <br />the loss of income from salvageable items in residential garbage. Mr. Brown referred to <br />"tonnage volume" in the two operations and suggested the Lane County Solid Waste Manage- <br />ment Department might have some good estimates with regard to volumes from each source. <br />He noted there had been a drop in volume - residential because of the trend to recycle, <br />and commercial because of the current slump in the economy. He said they have exact ~ <br />figures on cost of each operation, residential and commercial, the proper mix of customers, = <br />labor, equipment, etc., to make each route pay. No part of the operation was subsidized. <br />Cost was geared to the amount of garbage, he said, and their books would demonstrate that <br />the customer paid for the volume of garbage collected. Manager added that adjusting <br />the commercial rates downward and residential rates upward might affect different haulers <br />differently because some picked up commercial garbage primarily, others picked up almost <br />entirely residential garbage. Assistant Manager stressed the difference between commercial <br />and residential operations - the one having intensive equipment expense, the other in- <br />tensive labor expense, each involving different kinds of cost factors. <br /> <br />Mrs. Campbell moved seconded by Mr. Hershner to grant the proposed increase <br />for a six-month period and direct staff to bring back to the Council no later Corum <br />than the end of that period cost information to substantiate continuation of 10/23/74 <br />the increase or changes staff would recommend at that time. Pub Hrng <br /> <br />Councilwoman Campbell asked whether recycling of materials and loss of income from their <br />sale affected the garbage collectors' profits. <br />i <br />Mayor Jlnderson entered the meeting. <br /> <br />Mr. Brown answered that profits were affected because of !ecycling. He cited examples .~ <br />where rise in market value of cardboard and newsprint automatically decreased the amount <br />of refuse piCkup. <br /> <br />Councilman llershnersaid he would support the increase as recommended by the Garbage Board, <br />at the same time expressing regret that no Board members was present to discuss the issue. <br /> <br />Councilman Murray wondered if there was any way to speed up the rate investigation and <br />whether the issue would be subject to public hearing. Manager said if there was any way <br />to make the report prior to the end of the six-month period it would be done. Assistant <br />Manager added that public hearing was held when .the question was first considered, and <br />testimony was taken, but it might be well to have another to avoid any possible dissen- <br />sion because of action taken now. <br /> <br />, Council President Williams ruled that public hearing would be provided <br />pased on the significantly different subject matter under discussion. <br /> <br />Councilman Murray was in favor of the motion, then, saying he would reserve final judgment <br />until the hearing. Councilman McDonald said he would vote against it. He didn't approve <br />of making an increase then having to face the possibility of making a change in six months. <br /> <br />Mr. Williams restated the motion. Councilwoman Bea1 wondered why the action would not be .~ <br />entered on the consent calendar if the motion approving the increase was acted upon. ~ <br />Manager said his interpretation of the motion if it passed would be that the item would <br />appear in the public hearing section on the October 29th agenda as tentative action ap- <br />proving the increase. <br /> <br />Vote was taken on the motion as stated. Motion carried, all Council members <br />present voting aye, except Councilmen McDonald and Keller voting no. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br />:S~" 10/29/74 - 2 <br />