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<br /> Mr. Bennett said he was interested in getting away from the concept of free <br /> e parking because it is not really free. Mr. Gleason said that $35 is about <br /> the break-even point if taxes and operations have to be paid. Mr. Hibschman <br /> said the Overpark has to get $70 for every space to cover the operating costs <br /> that include debt service. Mr. Holmer asked about the cost if there was debt <br /> service but no taxes. Mr. Gleason said about $65. Mr. Bennett said he would <br /> like to see some more numbers on that. Ms. Wooten agreed that it is neces- <br /> sary to get away from free parking. Mr. Bennett said a number of retailers <br /> have expressed an interest in getting away from free parking and were con- <br /> cerned on what ideas there were for transition. Ms. Ehrman said there was no <br /> consensus on the Downtown Development District Review Group but they felt it <br /> might be time for the City Council to examine the issue. She said it seems <br /> to her that a small group is being taxed to benefit the whole city. Ms. <br /> Wooten asked about reactions from individual property owners. Mr. Hibschman <br /> said that parking seems to be the major concern. <br /> Mr. Holmer asked if there are any disadvantages to creating a new urban <br /> renewal district instead of expanding the present one. Mr. Hibschman said <br /> the main advantage in expanding is to have access to the resources of the <br /> established area. Otherwise, he said, the new area would be slow to generate <br /> increment like the Riverfront Research Park. Mr. Gleason said there would be <br /> a problem with including land already used because of displacement of exist- <br /> 'ing parking. If the district is expanded, then that tool would be used to <br /> develop parking in the surrounding boundaries. <br /> Mr. Bennett said that where new parking structures were located would make a <br /> big difference. He said a five-story structure could block the view and the <br /> e connecting route and will therefore create separation. He said part of the <br /> goal of expansion should be to invite people into downtown. Pat Decker said <br /> the five-story example cited earlier was based on a mixed-use area. She said <br /> that scale issues could be addressed and the City can talk with property <br /> owners that have parking problems. Mr. Gleason said it takes something above <br /> three stories to have enough increment flow to pay for replacement and new <br /> parking. Mr. Miller asked what kind of increment would be thrown off if a <br /> project under development is included. Mr. Hibschman said that every year, <br /> on January 1, the assessor determines the value, so a construction project <br /> would be assessed at that time. Therefore, the increment would theoretically <br /> be seen by the next fall. Mr. Miller said that it may then be better to move <br /> now. Mr. Gleason noted that the increment can only be captured if the dis- <br /> trict is in place there. Ms. Bascom asked if it would be better to separate <br /> the district if there are some projects waiting in the wings. Mr. Gleason <br /> said that if you want a high-density area with buildings above three stories, <br /> parking must be provided and the public must invest in the parking. He said <br /> that any existing cash flow out of the existing district must be focused on <br /> parking in that boundary, <br /> Mr. Rutan said what the council is trying to accomplish is to see if there <br /> are any opportunities to use urban renewal tools to help development occur in <br /> this area. He said the bottom line is to provide public parking facilities <br /> that would not occur on their own. Assuming these tools work, he said, then <br /> property can be brought into the urban renewal district as demand occurs. He <br /> asked if there is a way to have the mechanics in place and then incorporate <br /> e MINUTES--City Council Work Session September 12, 1988 Page 3 <br />