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<br />Public hearing was closed, there being no further testimony. <br /> <br />Assistant Manager displayed maps with overlays showing the overlapping boundaries <br />and sald notices were mailed to residents on both sides of Agate Street. In re- <br />spons~ to Councilman Murray, he said that persons qualified to vote in the Oak <br />Hills group were on the mailing list and had received notices of that group's <br />meetings, that the notice was adequate, and that its charter included provision <br />for amendment. <br /> <br />. <br /> <br />Mr. Murray moved second by Mr. Keller to deny the charter for the <br />Southeast Firs Association. <br /> <br />Councilman Murray said his motion was not with the intent of discouraging creation <br />of this particular group, but more to protect the integrity of the neighborhood <br />association policy. He said the Oak Hills group had been chartered and its boundaries <br />accepted by the city as san appropriate size for planning. Also, there were adequate <br />existing procedures by which a change in boundaries could be accomplished by those <br />people wishing it rather than by the Council. Further, he said, he didn't think <br />boundaries of a neighborhood group should be split over controversy on a single <br />issue, that different points of view were to be expected within various groups. <br /> <br />Councilwoman Shirey wasn't in favor of approving this charter because she felt <br />existing charters accepted by the Council had to be protected. She thought the <br />Agate Street improvement controversy may not have occurred had the street not been <br />the boundary line for the Oak Hils organizatiqn and she would have like the two <br />groups to work out a boundary that would not qverlap so that the Southeast Firs <br />group could also be accepted. <br /> <br />Councilman Haws wondered why the Southeast Firs group couldn't go ahead and operate <br />effectlvely with the people in that neighborhood and the city even without its tIJ. <br />charter having been accepted. He thought it might be better to have the groups <br />operating separately rather than having one large group always confronted with <br />petty differences. Assistant Manager felt there was a stronger commitment where <br />a charter was accepted and an organization recognized by the city. He said staff <br />had tried to work with the Southeast Firs group informally, recognizing that it <br />would take some time for those people to organize and prepare their charter for <br />Council consideration. He added that there were some neighborhood organizations <br />looking at consolidation but that he didn't think the Southeast Firs group was <br />particularly interested in discussing that at this time. <br /> <br />Councilman Keller was disturbed that people living in the same neighborhood were <br />not compatible unless there was some special interest pulling them together. He <br />noted the unanimous ballot in the group wanting nothing to do with the Oak Hills <br />organization. But he felt the two groups should sit down and reach some kind of <br />settlement rather that continuing to pull apart. <br /> <br />Vote was taken on the motion to deny the Southeast Firs charter. <br />Motion carried - Council membe~Murray, Beal, Haws, Shirey, and <br />Mayor Anderson voting aye; Council members Keller, Williams, <br />Bradley, and Hamel voting no. <br /> <br />Mayor Anderson in breaking the tie said the neighborhood associations should re- <br />member that differences within the groups cannot be settled by the Council, the <br />groups should bring about their own solutions. He thought the best course of <br />action would be for the people interested to settle the differences through es-, ....,. <br />tablished procedures after the present differences.had subsided. Timing in this ,.., <br />charter request, he said, had been unfortunate and if the present differences can- <br />not be resolved perhaps another request in a year or two would be appropriate. <br /> <br />5/12/75 - 2 <br /> <br />2~ <br />