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<br />.' and 3) public tax money was being used to reduce the public- <br /> ness of downtown space. He said no one lived downtown probably <br /> because of zoning and prohibitive land costs. He sa i d there <br /> were therefore no community services open after business hours <br /> so that the only businesses open were bars and nightclubs. <br /> Secondly, he said if building space was compared to open space, <br /> it was clear that the mall was designed to be a path and not <br /> a place. He said the new plan would be similar. He suggested <br /> the open space should be used as a place to be and not just a <br /> means of moving foot traffic. He said the fountain at the center <br /> of the mall was the only place to meet downtown. and that the <br /> fountain was too large to make this a good meeting place. <br /> Finally, he said since public money would be used in the project, <br /> the public should get a more public mall and more for their money. <br /> Public hearing was closed, there being no further testimony <br /> presented. <br /> ERA Executive Director Charles Kupper responded to Mr. Cox's <br /> comments on LTD. He sa i d both Fred Dyen and Dave Rynerson <br /> of LTD shared Mr. Cox's concern over the location for a bus <br /> terminal. He said both men had attended several Downtown Plan- <br /> ning Review Group meetings. ERA had met with LTD and was dis- <br /> cussing the possibility of moving the bus transfer station <br /> from Tenth to a site north of the Parcade. He sa i d the site <br /> was acceptable to LTD as a temporary station, and that ERA was <br />e willing to provide money for a station at that site. <br /> Mr. Delay asked if there were plans to cover the new mall. Mr. <br /> Kupper said the plan did not include the suggestion that the mall be <br /> covered, but that covering had been discussed. Mr. Elbasani <br /> said the plan had purposely not indicated whether the mall should <br /> be covered. He said it was definitely the tendency of developers <br /> to cover shopping malls. but that since Eugene had a moderate climate <br /> the developer might not find it necessary to cover a mall here. <br /> He said a more critical issue was the introversion or extroversion <br /> of the mall--how well integrated the different facilities were <br /> with each other through visual tie-ins from the mall. <br /> Ms. Smith asked if parking plans were alterable. Mr. Elbasani <br /> said that parking garage placements were based on a consensus of <br /> the Downtown Planning Review Group and were logical. He sa i d <br /> the plan should hold, but that there were no definite architectural <br /> plans. Ms. Smith then asked the status of developer interest in <br /> the plan. Mr. Elbasani said he had talked to several developers <br /> in a preliminary way and had a found a positive response to the <br /> plan. However, he said he had waited to talk further with developers <br /> upon receiving Council's approval of the plan. He said the path <br /> of least resistance for most developers today was to build in <br /> downtown areas, and that Eugene was healthy downtown. He pointed <br /> out that the plan would require no money from the General Fund. <br />e <br /> 7/11/77--3 <br /> 5 Lf J.f <br />