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as scheduling will require policies. Those being presented now are only those . needed for the user agreement to be completed. He feels the concern regarding rental rates might have come from a lack of good indication as to how local users will maintain an average audience at a higher ticket price to use the SOO-seat hall. The suggestion of using a sliding scale had not been considered for local, non-commercial users previously. They have requested local users provide them with information regarding their ability to pay, but that informa- tion has not been received. They wi 11 have to ho 1 d meet i ngs with them reg ard i ng specific concerns. They are open to policy considerations which local users may have. Ms. Smith stated that one issue raised November 10 was EUMA's classification as not being a non-commercial. She would like to know the rationale for the cl assification. Mr. Reynolds stated that the definition used for local non- commercial users is similar to one used in other communities. They have not specifically addressed EUMA. They did acknowledge that EUMA has made a great contribution in bringing events to this city and he is sensitive to their needs. They were considered as anyone else who has promoted events, but this could be reanalyzed. Ms. Smith suggested that the Performing Arts Commission recon- sider the designation for this group and bring back a report to the council. She also said that the Eugene Symphony has suggested an addition to the mis- sion statement which she also would like the commission to consider. This suggestion was in a letter sent to the City Council and it was also read as testimony November 10. Mr. Reynolds stated that the commission could consider these items and respond to them. Mr. Obie asked about using the figure of five percent against a figure of . $1,200 for commercial rates.. Mr. Reynolds explained that using $1,200 against five percent of the gross, whichever is greater, would cause at least a $10 ticket price. The national trend seems to be going toward a percentage. They had considered ten percent originally, but were afraid this would scare people away from using the facility. If an outside group charged a high ticket price, that would give the City a chance to retain some of the money here. Mr. Obie noted it would seem the City is almost being taken advantage of. He asked about rates for equal facilities. Mr. Reynolds stated that on today's market, $900-$1,100 is the going rate, so they increased that amount due to inflation and are looking at charging $1,200 in 1982. Mr. Obie asked what the current rate is in Portland. Mr. Reynolds stated that it is $1,000 for a 3,000-seat house. Mr. Lieuallen asked if the rationale for not including EUMA in the local non- commercial group is because they are not performers as much as they are pro- moters. Mr. Reynolds responded that that is correct. Mayor Keller noted that approval of the staff recommendations and approval of the commercial rates as proposed seems to be supported. Ms. Smith said she felt that the council should adopt the commercial rates but that further discussion on the non-commercial rates, which should be established as soon as possible, needs to take place. Mr. Henry said that the council could adopt the . MINUTES--Eugene City Council November 12, 1980 Page 2