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She said that making comparisons between communities could be difficult because the comparison was not <br />always an "apples to apples" comparison given the differences in regulations between communities. <br /> <br />Mr. Meisner was unsure about the need for a new department advisory committee given the work already done. <br />Regarding the proposal for interim funding, he said that would be a challenge. Mr. Meisner said that the <br />information provided to the council did not include a comparison of total program costs between communities, <br />and he would be interested in that information. Were other communities facing such shortfalls, and what did <br />Eugene do differently from those communities? He said that he would want that information before making a <br />final decision on the staff proposal. <br /> <br />Mr. Kelly was generally supportive of the staff proposal. Responding to a question from Mr. Kelly regarding <br />the fees captured for unfunded development assistance, Ms. Osborn concurred that there were land use fees <br />associated with site review and planned unit developments, but the permit fees were insufficient to cover the <br />costs of referral to the appropriate staff. She said that there may be room in that fee structure to seek more <br />revenues. <br /> <br />Mr. Kelly asked if there were a way to recover the costs of planning services through the systems development <br />charge. Ms. Osbom said no. <br /> <br />Mr. Kelly supported the proposed department advisory committee if the time line developed by staff could be <br />maintained. <br /> <br />Mr. Kelly indicated willingness to consider an 80-20 split in recognition of the community benefit provided by <br />Construction Permit Services. <br /> <br />Mr. Rayor believed the staff proposal was generally taking the right approach. He asked for more information <br />about the use to which the reserve fund could be put, and whether the council could avoid directing General <br />Fund money to the service. Mr. Farmer noted the negative impact of the rate of growth on the reserve fund <br />and indicated he believed the funding was essential to avoid the fund going into the red. He said it was not a <br />long-term fix, but would buy the City some time to develop a permanent solution. Responding to a follow-up <br />question from Mr. Rayor, Mr. Johnson said that the fund had some reserves above those representing services <br />already paid for, but the use of those dollars were restricted by council policy regarding the amount of the <br />fund. Ms. Osbom said that when building activity for large commercial and industrial projects was strong, the <br />City had been able to build up some reserves, but the department had been spending those reserves on current <br />costs. <br /> <br />Ms. Nathanson asked if it continued to be true that large commercial and industrial projects to some degree <br />subsidized smaller scale projects. Ms. Osborn said yes, to some degree; part of the reason was because State <br />fees were based on tables adopted by the State, and the City was constrained for what it could charge for <br />different projects. The fees were not always directly related to the costs of reviewing the project. <br /> <br />Ms. Nathanson said it appeared that 100 percent cost recovery may not be feasible or appropriate. She <br />suggested that the council needed to take a step back and ask what the purpose of all the permits the City <br />issued was: were permits for the benefit for the person getting the permit, the community at large, or the <br />person who may purchase or occupy a dwelling later? She said that many regulations were compelled by <br /> <br /> MINUTES--Eugene City Council December 6, 1999 Page 2 <br /> 5:30 p.m. <br /> <br /> <br />