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Mr. Meisner indicated support for the motion. While he agreed there may be both a private and public <br />benefit to the proposal, neither met the test of public need. He could not find that need was demonstrated <br />anywhere in the proposal, and could not find a credible way to make that finding at this time. <br /> <br />Mr. Meisner suggested the council be fair, equitable, and consistent when it came to the topic of <br />refinement plans. He said if plans were to be respected for one neighborhood, they should be respected <br />for all. <br /> <br />Ms. Nathanson said it was not practical to conclude that a refinement plan amendment was needed for <br />every development proposal. The City could not afford it. She had been inclined to support the proposal <br />because she believed it was the practical way to accomplish what was ultimately the right thing to do. Ms. <br />Nathanson said she had begun to be persuaded that the process could have gone differently, and perhaps <br />approval of the motion would be a message to the community that private parties with good ideas needed <br />to do a better j ob on their own of reaching out to neighborhoods. The City could help facilitate the <br />process as it had done in other situations. She said she would like to support the Planning Commission's <br />recommendation, but perhaps now was the time to send a signal to the community that because of a lack <br />of resources, business would be done differently in the future. <br /> <br />Mr. Pap6 determined from Ms. Thomas that the Laurel Hill Valley refinement plan was last updated in <br />1982. He asked about the cost of updating a refinement plan. Ms. Thomas had no cost figures at hand, <br />but estimated a six-month time period at minimum. Planning Director Susan Muir concurred. <br /> <br />Mr. Pap6 asked how often the City attempted to update its refinement plans. Ms. Muir said the City had <br />not done an update in a long time. Ms. Muir added that other than the South Hills Study, no refinement <br />plan was envisioned in the division's fiscal year 2005 work plan. Mr. Pap6 said that Ms. Nathanson's <br />comments about the practical impediments to amending refinement plans were well-taken. He did not <br />think that there had to be a public benefit for the City to take affirmative action on the proposal. He said <br />private property owners have rights and the City should respect those and deal with such proposals in an <br />expedient way. <br /> <br />Mr. Pap6 disagreed with Ms. Bettman that the proposal would negatively impact residents, saying that was <br />speculative. He believed that any development would benefit the public through additional tax revenues. <br /> <br />Mr. Pap6 said if the case before the council was a watershed case, the council needed to consider it <br />carefully, as refinement plans were not keeping pace with the City's growth. He asked what the process <br />for recognizing the realities of real estate dynamics was, if not this one. <br /> <br />Mayor Torrey questioned if the council's passage of the motion had Ballot Measure 37 implications. Mr. <br />Lidz said no. <br /> <br /> Mayor Torrey called for another round of council comments. <br /> <br /> Mr. Kelly supported the motion but did not want it to be the end of the matter. He hoped the neighbor- <br /> hood association would collaborate with the property owners and the City to work through the issues. The <br /> change he envisioned would be an amendment to the refinement plan similar to this, but in a broader <br /> context. <br /> <br /> Addressing Mr. Papb's remarks, Mr. Kelly said that many residents believe the proposal would negatively <br /> impact them, as demonstrated by the unanimous opposition of the neighborhood association to the <br /> proposal. <br /> <br /> MINUTES--Eugene City Council December 6, 2004 Page 9 <br /> Work Session <br /> <br /> <br />