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Ms. Bettman could not imagine how there could not be a cross-subsidy. She asked about per capita <br />expenditures and how they compared. She questioned what capital investment was being made and did not <br />think that the outlay of equipment and infrastructure could be equitable between the two agencies. She <br />asked if the City of Eugene would be subsidizing Springfield’s response to the Peace Health’s River Bend <br />campus. Ms. Bettman considered the issue a budget and policy issue, and requested figures that demon- <br />strated undeniably that there was no cross-subsidy. <br /> <br />Ms. Bettman said her concerns were exacerbated by the fact that Springfield was now able to expand its <br />urban growth boundary without Eugene’s permission. <br /> <br />Chief Groves said Eugene responded to more calls for service than Springfield with a larger infrastructure. <br />In regard to the River Bend campus, he noted the two cities had commenced work on the initiative long <br />before Peace Health planned to relocate from Eugene to Springfield. He said in terms of moving back and <br />forth, the two departments could do that now under its mutual aid agreement, but in reality, resources flow <br />with the call load; given Eugene’s larger call load, some might say the shift in resources was the other way. <br />He thought it balanced out over time, but agreed to attempt to provide those numbers. <br /> <br />City Manager Taylor said that being able to train together had been an important step, and having the same <br />terminology for apparatus and the same standards of coverage was very important. If the City expanded to <br />a new station, it would use the standards of cover to make that decision. Springfield was using the same <br />methodology in regard to its standards of cover. Over time, he thought staff could share information about <br />response times and the fiscal impact of the initiative. <br /> <br />Ms. Ortiz said she had some concerns about the cost to Eugene, but she had asked different medics at <br />Sacred Heart about the issue, and they provided positive feedback, particularly with regard to training. She <br />thought that it was a good idea for the two cities to work together, as it would make the training more <br />streamlined and ensure that training was continuous. She shared Ms. Bettman’s concern about Springfield’s <br />choice to make its own decisions about its urban growth boundary and the impact that might have on <br />Eugene, and hoped the chief took the council’s remarks to heart. She said the council’s constituency was the <br />city of Eugene. <br /> <br />Mr. Pryor said he loved the concept presented by Chief Groves because if someone was in a house burning <br />up they would not be thinking about the jurisdiction that responded. He hoped that if someone in Eugene <br />could be saved by a Springfield response that would occur. He trusted staff to ensure that contributions did <br />not get “too lop-sided.” He thought the automatic aid agreement demonstrated cooperation had worked. He <br />also agreed as to the importance of shared training. He pointed out the two agencies were still operating <br />independently with individual budgets so he did not characterize it as a merger, which implied shared <br />governance. Mr. Pryor said the message the chief should be hearing was the need for Eugene to spend its <br />money wisely, as well as that Eugene was not an island. He thought it important that Eugene recognized it <br />was part of a larger community, and it was a good thing to partner with other agencies accountably. He <br />appreciated that the two chiefs were working to coordinate services so that nobody had to die. <br /> <br />Mr. Clark agreed with the remarks of Mr. Pryor and thought there was great wisdom in the proposal. He <br />said that given Springfield’s expanding tax base, Eugene might be able to take advantage of investments that <br />community made in fire and emergency medical services response. He appreciated the chief’s willingness to <br />work with Springfield and to increase cooperation so that people on both sides of I-5 were safer. He <br />suggested that the concept was more efficient and likely to save money for both jurisdictions. <br /> <br />Mr. Zelenka also liked the concept. He said that if someone’s life was in danger, it was important to have <br />the fastest, best response possible, no matter where one lived. However, he wanted more information on the <br /> <br /> <br />MINUTES—Eugene City Council June 25, 2007 Page 6 <br /> Work Session <br /> <br />