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tation without further discussion. She maintained Eugene ratepayers subsidized wastewater infrastructure <br />rates for Springfield, and the more Springfield grew, the more it cost Eugene. <br /> <br />Ms. Ortiz reiterated her support for the concept. However, she was unsure that the Eugene Emergency <br />Medical Services goals were the same as Springfield’s goals. She recalled the Broadway tree-cutting <br />incident in 1997 where Eugene could not speak to the actions of other responding departments, and there <br />was no accountability in a riot situation. She asserted that those departments had their own cultures and <br />belief systems, and while she was sure they were similar, she as concerned. <br /> <br />Chief Groves said that in his experience, the Springfield department was a professional department with high <br />standards. He reiterated that no money was changing hands, and without experience it was difficult to <br />gauge the impact. He said under the current arrangement, units were moving back and forth across <br />jurisdictional boundaries, but the incentive got the two departments on the same operating page so that <br />incident commanders know what they were getting in emergency situations. <br /> <br />Ms. Ortiz commended the work of the fire and police departments. <br /> <br />Mr. Zelenka thought the concept would result in an increase in services for both communities. It should also <br />save more lives. However, it “always mattered who pays.” He agreed that it was not a service merger, and <br />questioned why that was not proposed. Chief Groves said that Tualatin, for example, was a fire district that <br />served multiple communities, and that was always a possibility. What was being proposed for Eugene and <br />Springfield was similar to the Gresham/Portland model, which enhanced automatic aid parameters. City <br />Manager Taylor said that some fire districts were formed to get around the impacts of Ballot Measure <br />47/50. Historically, the metropolitan area had questioned the wisdom of creating such single purpose <br />governments and has looked to other approaches that left the general government structure in place. The <br />concept was intended to improve current operating and mutual aid structures. <br /> <br />Mr. Zelenka asked how Springfield intended to cover the Peace Health River Bend campus, and what was <br />expected of Eugene. Chief Groves said that Eugene was part of that response under its current automatic <br />aid agreement. He pointed out the River Bend campus was a regional facility that benefited Eugene citizens <br />as well as Springfield citizens. <br /> <br />Responding to a question from Mr. Zelenka, Chief Groves said Springfield had two ladder trucks to fight <br />high-rise fires, very similar in type to what Eugene owned. Those were located at the Gateway station and <br />th <br />the station at Main and 66 streets. <br /> <br />Responding to a question from Mr. Poling, Chief Groves said if Springfield was unable to respond, Eugene <br />would look to its other automatic and mutual aid agreements for coverage. There were times when the <br />closest station was tied up, but one of the attributes of the system was it allowed units to be moved up to fill <br />gaps in coverage. <br /> <br />Mr. Poling asked how much input the rank and file had into the concept. Chief Groves said that staff had a <br />fair amount of input into the concept through the battalion and line chiefs, particularly in the area of <br />training. <br /> <br />Mr. Poling perceived no major policy changes; he perceived the concept as “mutual aid plus.” <br /> <br />Ms. Bettman saw a trend toward regionalizing government and putting services in the hands of bodies that <br />were not accountable in the same way as the elected officials. She cited the MWMC and Public Safety <br /> <br /> <br />MINUTES—Eugene City Council June 25, 2007 Page 8 <br /> Work Session <br /> <br />