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Speaking to the issue of staff, Ms. Bettman opined it had more to do with staff "ideology and agenda." She <br />opined staff members advocated for particular issues and discriminated against people who did not agree <br />with them. She pointed out that staff people had an entire agenda item summary (ALS) and an uninterrupted <br />presentation to "make their case." <br /> <br />Ms. Ortiz liked having a timer and also the idea of a cumulative amount of time. However, she agreed with <br />contentions that the one-minute time limit was unrealistic. She suggested rounds should go no lower than <br />two minutes. <br /> <br />Ms. Ortiz said interactions with staff worked best when it provided the facts and not direction. <br /> <br />Ms. Taylor opined that staff members were sometimes trying to make policy and this was the job of the <br />council. <br /> <br />Mr. Kelly remarked that this sort of abuse was not widespread. He agreed with Ms. Ortiz that after a <br />presentation, staff should only provide facts. <br /> <br />Mr. Kelly averred that agenda packets were getting thinner. He pointed out that the agenda packet for the <br />next work session at which the council would consider remanding an ordinance did not contain a copy of the <br />ordinance. <br /> <br />Mr. Pryor related his expectation that staff would have a position on an agenda item. He said elected <br />officials relied upon this because the staff members were hired based on their expertise. He agreed, <br />however, that staff members should draw the line at lobbying for a particular position. <br /> <br />Ms. Utecht summarized the discussion, as follows: <br /> <br /> · The council would hold a work session without the buzzer; <br /> · Mayor Piercy would try to help draw attention to time limits; <br /> · It was suggested that people who attend a meeting to testify at a public hearing that looked to be <br /> ultimately postponed due to time constraints be sent home earlier than at the end of the meeting; <br /> · Ms. Bettman and Ms. Taylor talked about the possibility of having a cumulative amount of time to <br /> speak to issues; <br /> · Some councilors felt the one-minute rounds for comments and questions should be eliminated. <br /> <br />Ms. Utecht noted that Mr. Pap6 included Robert's Rules of Order on his list of concerns. Mr. Pap6 clarified <br />that his concern was particular to the act of reconsidering a motion. He stated that should the maker of the <br />motion not be present and/or not informed 24 hours prior to the motion to reconsider, then the motion should <br />be tabled. <br /> <br />Mr. Kelly thought it could be brought up and tabled again. He said a motion to reconsider meant something <br />unusual was going on. He felt there were two rules in place that addressed this - one that dictated that a <br />councilor with a motion needed to let staff know in advance and the other that said a councilor could request <br />in writing that a motion not be considered in their absence. <br /> <br />Mr. Poling asked how one would know in advance if a motion to reconsider "came out of left field." Ms. <br />Rose read the clause from the operating agreements that governed such motions and it was determined that <br />Mr. Papa's concern was addressed. <br /> <br />MINUTES-- Eugene City Council February 8, 2005 Page 6 <br /> Process Session <br /> <br /> <br />
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