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Regarding the administrative rule, Mr. Papd asked if the 25 percent requirement was for opaque walls or for <br />the open air portion of a facility. Ms. Osborn replied that it referred to the open air portion. Mr. Papd <br />indicated that he would support increasing that amount to perhaps 50 percent. <br /> <br />Mr. Pap~ supported the 25-foot buffer but was uncertain how it would be enforced. Ms. Osborn said it <br />would be enforceable for congregating smokers but she did not think it would be possible to regulate <br />smokers as they were walking by a building; however, public information could help promote compliance. <br /> <br />Ms. Solomon wanted to be certain that the City was not taking away the option of having smoking areas. <br />She felt bars and restaurants should have the choice and the option to build a smoking room if that was what <br />their patrons wanted. <br /> <br />Ms. Ortiz wished to stress that she was not against smoking or that smokers were bad people. She felt that <br />smoking was a %ad" addiction. She appreciated that the council was having a good conversation about <br />what was desired in such a facility. She supported making them as airy as possible and not forcing <br />employees to breathe second-hand smoke. <br /> <br />Ms. Bettman commented that the City had allowed the proliferation of these sorts of outdoor facilities and <br />could be stuck with the ones that were already built. She asked if there was a way to temporarily discon- <br />tinue issuing permits for their construction. Mr. Lidz commented that in the land use context, the City was <br />required to issue or deny permits based on standards that were in place at the time the application was <br />submitted. <br /> <br />In response to a question from Ms. Bettman, City Manager Taylor recommended that the council come back <br />after the break and finish addressing the item, at which time staff could present modifications to the <br />administrative rule extrapolated from the council discussions on it. He did not think it would be prudent to <br />issue a moratorium on permits, given that the action could take place relatively soon. <br /> <br />Ms. Bettman said she was using up a lot of her time trying to define the issue and she had other comments to <br />make. She felt she was not getting anywhere. She reiterated that the City may see a proliferation of <br />permits. <br /> <br /> Ms. Bettman moved to discontinue issuing permits for outdoor smoking areas pending reso- <br /> lution of the issue. <br /> <br />Mr. Kelly raised a point of order. He stated that a majority of the council would have to agree to override <br />Mr. Poling's request not to take action. <br /> <br />Ms. Bettman agreed to bring this item back. She asked staff to come back with language for a moratorium <br />on the permits at the meeting scheduled for February 28. She reiterated that the key to regulation for her <br />was not only the amount of available air but also whether employees were forced to enter into the smoking <br />areas to serve customers or clean up after them. <br /> <br />Mr. Kelly shared Ms. Bettman's concern. He felt a lot of the smoking areas were rooms for all purposes <br />and intents because of the way the administrative rule was written or because an establishment disregarded <br /> <br />MINUTES--Eugene City Council February 23, 2005 Page 3 <br /> Work Session <br /> <br /> <br />