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Mr. Poling felt the ordinance was intended to be focused on the chronic violator. He favored Option A and <br />expansion of the western boundary. He was willing to listen to public input. He was concerned with the <br />ability to hold people accountable for their behavior. He was not in favor of a sunset provision as <br />revitalization of downtown would take years to achieve. <br /> <br />Mr. Clark agreed that downtown should be a place where everyone was welcome, but that welcome ended at <br />a point when someone intimidated, threatened or harassed others with their behavior. The point of the <br />ordinance was to indicate that such behavior would not be tolerated in downtown and addressing public <br />safety issues was an integral part of revitalizing the downtown. He said the ordinance gave officers a tool as <br />just an increased presence was not sufficient. He understood concerns about imposing sanctions on first <br />time offenders and would consider scaling back the list of qualifying offenses, but he wanted an immediate <br />response to the hardcore individuals who caused a majority of the problems and for that reason supported <br />Option A. <br /> <br />Ms. Solomon agreed with Mr. Clark about the importance of public safety to downtown revitalization <br />efforts. She asked what was considered a preponderance of evidence required to determine someone had <br />committed a crime within the zone in order to impose exclusion. Mr. Lidz said a preponderance of evidence <br />meant it was more probably than not, but was not beyond a reasonable doubt. He said the judge had to be <br />persuaded that the offense occurred; the decision was not made by the officer. <br /> <br />Ms. Ortiz said it was also important to include other offenders, such as sexual predators, in the ordinance to <br />assure they could be excluded from the zone. <br /> <br />Mr. Pryor commented that the debate, which was also occurring in other communities, was about the <br />conflict between individual liberties versus the community’s public safety needs. He said added to that was <br />the problem of resources to assure meaningful enforcement. He hoped the public hearing would provide <br />some guidance on how to create a system that was enforceable. <br /> <br />Ms. Taylor said the worst offense on the list was pointing a fire arm at someone. She asked what the <br />consequences were if that occurred anywhere in the community. Sgt. Kerns said that person would be <br />arrested for menacing. He said the individual would be lodged in the jail, but likely released quickly. <br /> <br />Ms. Taylor said if someone was excluded from downtown for that offense they could go somewhere else in <br />the community and do that. She said that was a major concern for her as it would just move problems <br />around. <br /> <br />Ms. Piercy observed that enforcement in neighborhood parks had shifted the problems somewhere else, but <br />that allowed people in the neighborhood to resume using their park. She said the City faced that issue all the <br />time and while problems were not solved, enforcement did bring some relief to an area. <br /> <br />Mr. Zelenka expressed concerned with infringing on people’s rights and taking away freedoms without due <br />process. He questioned the constitutionality of excluding someone without a conviction. Mr. Lidz said the <br />ordinance was modeled on the City’s prostitution-free zone ordinance, with some modifications, which was <br />modeled on a Portland ordinance. He said the Portland ordinance had been upheld by the Oregon Supreme <br />Court as a civil remedy. He said as a constitutional matter a criminal conviction was not required, but due <br />process was and that was the purpose of bringing the individual before a judge for a decision. He said the <br />city attorney regarded the ordinance as constitutional; it was the council’s policy decision to balance free <br />movement in the City with enhancing livability in downtown. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br />MINUTES—Eugene City Council June 9, 2008 Page 4 <br /> Work Session <br /> <br />