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"'l e ~5o 7/26/71 Ii I II Glenn. (Robb, 2045. Ri ver View.,. said many. of. the..prob1ems...were. caused by the ji presence of the police. :1 Mr. Bessler did .not . think there .was a precedence for requiring payment for II II additionaL. police service ." ..He .did..not think the dance caused the misconduct, I but that it was merely centered where it was more noticeable. I, Ii Phil DietzJ 450~ Blair, did not think extra police were needed. Councilman Mohr requested the City Attorney to prepare a memo which would outline how standards could be applied in determining need for additional police activity as specified in this. rill1e; what. guidance administration should have for making these determinations; are standards written in and is the Council on solid ground or are there standaEds unspecified or implied being applied; and is there a pos- sibility for misapplication. He was not interested in constitutional problems e but in common sense problems. Manager felt a council decision might be premature because of unsettled legal 'I I: questions, and asked for a tentative decision on the one application before the 'I :1 staff which would apply only to that dance wi th regard to the police protection il and whether to wai ve the time period. Other basic questions could be explored II at the next meeting. II I I I' Mrs. Campbell suggested the permit 'be granted, the clean up fee reduced to $20.00, I; :1 a minimum amount of police protection provided at city expense, and see what I: happened. 'I I. I, Mr. Mohr asked for clarification if she was suggesting the normal police patrol I' I' .1 on the mall. II I II II Manager explained that there is a normal police patrol on the mall, as on other il I' public streets. II II .' Mr. Mohr said he would support Mrs. Campbell's suggestion. ~ : II I, ii Manager pointed out that past experience would indicate police supervision 'would ,. 11 not be sufficient if maintained at the normal level. There would be extra cost '. to the ci ty . " ,I ~ I II Mayor Anderson pointed out that staff judgment has to be exercised in particular " instances and that the Council should not enter into a determination of the amount Ij . . II of securi ty required. The issue was the fee, not the protection. Mrs. Campbell I: agreed and said her suggestion had been for the minimum amount of protection " p I necessary. This would be a staff judgment, but.at this particular time, it would ,I be at city exp~n.se. Police present at parks department danges are at city expense. II The Ci ty Manager agreed if the acti vi ty was ci ty-sponsored as part of the ci ty ;: II recreation program, the city paid for extra supervision. I '1 'i :r I: Councilman Williams felt this was in a commercial kind of realm, and it was a .1 right and proper decision whether extra police were necessary. It was illogical II I to say this shou1ddbe charged against the general public. I' II ii Mayor Anderson said he had no particular objection to any interval regarding 'I II frequency of dances. He felt this was a staff problem. If it would not be out II II of 1ine'Jhe felt every two weeks would be proper. He felt the clean up fee should II e :1 be maintained with the opportunity to waive it. In the matter of polic~ fee, I he felt this should stand. ~ i " I! Mr. Williams moved sec.onded by Mr. Teague that dances be held every two weeks, I 'I the clean up fee should be maintained wi th an opportuni ty to wai ve it, and the po1i ce :1 fee should stand as it was. I II [i Mi:. Williams said the aml1 rules were adopted in the hope they would benefi t :1 'I the ci ti zens . He felt the change to a two week dance interval would benefi t 'I the ci ti zens . He had received a number of complaints as a result of the dances, II especially from neighboring parking lots, and if these complaints reoccur, he II jl would move that the dances be banned entirely. Mr. Teague agreed, saying he had Ii I' recei ved several simi lar complaints. ,I .1 I: '1 Mayor Anderson pointed out that the condit-ions are under constant review and can H I " be changed at any time. II " :1 'I I. CampbeLl explained that she had addressed her- comments to the City Manager's ., Mrs. II I' request for guidance on a particular request. She had not been aware a decision II " would be made on revision of the regulations. " " Ii Mayor Anderson said revision would give the City Manager guidance. it I, ;; Mr. Mohr did not feel he could vote on .this motion, since he had requested II e Ii additio~a1 information before passing on the rules. He also felt they should 7/26/71 - 3 ...