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<br />Stan Long;:- assistant city attorney, said salient points were that the City had a <br />contractual obligation to 'co-operate with the Renewal Agency, that the franchise -.. <br />under which PNB placed the conduit was in the nature of a revocable type license, <br />and based on research and previous arguments it was the opinion of the City <br />Attorney's office that compensation was not required - if it was to be required, <br />the appropriate place to determine that was in the courts. He added 'that if the <br />City decided payment was required from ERA it would seem right for. ERA to be <br />reimbursed, and that would entail some risk'since the Council did not have. <br />authori ty to payout public funds unless it was a clearly- established obligation. <br />There was no vested right under the franchise or State Law, he said, and if that <br />was in error the proper place of determination would be in the courts. He <br />suggested that if the matter went to litigation, ERA would be in possession in <br />a short time thr.ough condemnation anyway. And if there was delay, .pu!,chas ers of <br />ERA property would have some claims, which would add to the prob~ems. <br /> <br />Manager noted the same question raised previously in the vacation of other alleys <br />in the downtown project area, the lengthy discussion at that time with regard to <br />whether it was of benefit to the public or the redeveloper. Council at that time <br />decided it was a public purpose. He _reminded the Council that the Renewal Agency <br />was the city and not a small group of men engaged for their own benefit or profit. <br />Also, the PNB ratepayers are the same public. He noted the contract between the <br />city and ERA calling for vacation of alleys in accordance with the renewal plan <br />for the downtown area as redevelopment o'ccurred. And he said itE;.eEl!ll~d, :.p.ari;iGularly <br />important in indicating his feeling to note that the City Attorney and ERA's- <br />attorney had given advice which should be followed because he' could see no reason <br />why the vacation should not proceed and the question of compensation settled later. <br />If arrangements could be worked out to build around the conduit as suggested, that <br />could also be worked out after the building design for that block was further along. <br />He recommended proceeding with the alley vacations. <br /> <br />Council Bill No. 574 - Vacating alleys between 6th ann 7th, Willamette and <br />Olive, and between 7th and 8th for one-half block <br />west from Willamette was read- by council bill number and title only, there <br />being no councilman present requesting that it be read in full. <br /> <br />Mr. Williams moved seconded by Mr. Hershner that the bill be read the second time <br />by council bill number only, with unanimous consent of the Council, and that enact- <br />ment be cons idered at this time. ... .~~~~ <br /> <br />.J--- <br /> <br />-,:: ~- --~ ~ <br /> <br />~ <br /> <br />-.' <br /> <br />.: <br />~ - <br /> <br />~. .,~_. ; "~'- <br /> <br />Councilman Williams could see no.~fault with the argument that the vacation could <br />proceed at the same time settling in the courts the matter of compensation. However, <br />he wondered why immediate vacation was requested if the design-for buildings on that <br />block was not far enough along at this point to determine whether" the conduit could <br />be accommodated in place. Manager noted delay which had already occurred because <br />of rescheduled Council meetings in May. He said the hotel project on that block <br />was tied in with the transit terminal and parking district projects on which commit- <br />ments were made. Also, replacement conduit should be ordered as quickly as possible <br />because of apparent problems in obtaining proper materials to do the job. Dave Hunt, <br />ERA director, added that it had been three months since the vacation petition was <br />actually filed and two months since it was recommended by the Planning Commission. <br />Discussions with PNB had been held over a long period of time, with regard to <br />vacating downtown alleys, he said,-and they have indicated they would not start to <br />relocate this conduit until the alleys were vacated. He said even a two-week delay <br />would put the project into bad weather. Also, talks with the developer with regard <br />to locating on this block occurred about a year after the last Council discussion <br />on a similar vacation, so even though ERA could talk about a design to accomodate <br />the conduit they would not offer a site with an easement running through the middle. <br />Mr. Hunt said they would be happy to discuss with the developer possibilities for <br />retaining the conduit in place, but it would be the rdeveloper's decision because a <br />cleared site-had been offered with no easements and a substantial contract was <br />involved. Mr. Hunt didn't believe a two-week delay would provide enough time to <br />develop design criteria:oto~determinewhether the conduit could remain. <br /> <br />In answer to Councilman McDonald, -Mr. Hamel said he believed a delay would glve the <br />opportunity to determine whether.the conduit could be moved: to a lower depth in the <br />same location. Also, that delay would expedite an ultimate decision because it <br />would avoid litigation. Mr. McDonald could see no reason $6r~n9t delaying a <br />couple of weeks to allow an opportunity to resolve the issue. <br /> <br />Councilman Hershner saw the question as one of compensation, saying there was no <br />question about whether the alleys would be vacated, and that it seemed the attorneys <br />were pretty much at odds as to whether compensation could legally be a~lowed. He <br />was curious whether PNB would request compensation in the event the conduit could <br />be placed at a lower depth in the same location. Mr. Hamel felt that would be <br />difficult to determine: He believed there was room for compromise depending upon <br />the ex~ense involved. <br /> <br />'~3 <br /> <br />6/1.0/74 - 2 <br /> <br />Go <br /> <br />( 0 379 ) <br /> <br />. <br /> <br />.' <br /> <br />. <br /> <br />/- <br />~. <br /> <br />. <br /> <br />(0585 ) <br /> <br />.' <br />, v .; <br /> <br />(0617) <br /> <br />J <br />
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