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<br />e <br /> <br />asked about the percentage that could be attributed to conservation and said <br />it made no sense to switch to a flow-based system and then to charge people for <br />what they did not use. She added that she agreed with Mr. Rutan1s suggestion <br />to examine cost-cutting rather than supporting an increase in this biennium. <br /> <br />Mr. Miller said he agreed with Ms. Ehrman's observation about the impact of <br />shifts toward user fees. He said the shi ft from the Genera 1 Fund was a IICatch <br />22" because it resulted in a need to compensate for those funds. He said he <br />liked the idea of user fees, especially if they had cost-containment features <br />that would prevent continued escalation. Mr. Miller asked when it became <br />counterproduct i ve to charge too much, and he added that he thought more <br />information about reducing costs would be helpful. <br /> <br />Ms. Schue, a former member of the Metro Wastewater Management Commission, said <br />she favored attempting to find more efficiencies. She said she understood <br />that the increase was required because of the shift from the General Fund to <br />the Sewer Fund, the error in projections, and inflation. She suggested that <br />the council might consider further the idea of a two-year phasing but added <br />that she was comfortable with the general direction. <br /> <br />e <br /> <br />Ms. Schue also said the treatment plant had been built with the capacity to <br />serve 30,000 people in River Road/Santa Clara, who always had been part of the <br />project and who soon would be served. She said she did not think the facility <br />was overbuilt, although the full capacity was not now being used. Responding <br />to Ms. Ehrman's question, staff said the facility would not reach capacity <br />from the addition of only the River Road/Santa Clara area. Ms. Wooten said <br />she understood the need for future capacity, but she was concerned about the <br />escalation of capital costs for the facility. <br /> <br />Mr. Holmer said he agreed with the importance of the service in terms of <br />economic development and sustaining the community's needs. He said he <br />expected to be faced with continuing increases and he thought they would be <br />better addressed annually as part of the general budgetary process of the <br />City, rather than as IIbiennial crises.1I He said he thought it was appropriate <br />to move the positions to their area of cost, adding that he would agree to <br />start with a rate of 59~ next year and then to adjust rates annually. <br /> <br />Mayor Obie said he was concerned about the shift from the General Fund. He <br />said street cleaning fees previously had been moved, and based on that, he did <br />not favor another shift now. The Mayor also said he thought another answer <br />could be found to the discovery of the mistake in projections than to propose <br />an increase to the public. He suggested changing expectations in terms of <br />accomplishments, and added that he favored a one-year inflationary increase of <br />3.3 to 3.5 percent. <br /> <br />Ms. Wooten said the budget that was being presented included the transfer of <br />expenditures from the General Fund into the Sewer Utility Fund. Mayor Obie <br />said that was a management problem. Ms. Schue said the council had instructed <br />staff to pursue user fees. Mr. Whitlow said transfers from the General Fund <br />to special funds occurred only when proposed in the budget document. He also <br />noted that a limited number of funds could receive personnel expenses. <br /> <br />e <br /> <br />MINUTES--Eugene City Council Dinner/Work Session <br /> <br />May 11, 1987 Page 6 <br />