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<br /> many passing cars as possible. Ms. Wooten asked whether impoundment of the <br /> vehicle was not an extreme penalty, particularly for youth, who might be from <br /> e outside the area, and given other concerns about towing practices. Mr. Mason <br /> said he did not think the penalty was excessive because it would apply only to <br /> the second violation on the same date. Ms. Wooten asked whether other cities <br /> had experienced criticisms about seizure of property without due process. Mr. <br /> Mason said impoundment of a vehicle did not constitute seizure of property <br /> because the operator of the vehicle already would have demonstrated an <br /> unwillingness to comply with the ordinance. He said he felt the impoundment <br /> provision was appropriate for the circumstances. <br /> Mr. Gleason said it was typical of many towns for cruisers to come from <br /> outside the area. He also said a substantial percentage of cruisers were <br /> older, and he thought the ordinance would be effective in eliminating the <br /> "critical mass" that resulted in problems. <br /> Mr. Miller asked whether it was possible to limit enforcement to disruptive <br /> and illegal activities. Mr. Mason said current Oregon laws did not allow <br /> impoundment of vehicles for traffic violations. <br /> Responding to questions from Mayor Obi e, Mr. Mason said he thought most <br /> communities had some cruising activity. He estimated the average population <br /> of summer cruisers in Eugene to be about 1,500 to 2,000 people per night. <br /> Mayor Obie asked about the savings in enforcement costs if the problem were <br /> non-existent. Mr. Mason said he believed the indirect impact would be large, <br /> but exact figures were unknown. He said that as supervisor of the Traffic <br /> Enforcement unit, he did not believe the city was receiving the quality and <br /> e attention to traffic enforcement that it should, which resulted in many <br /> accidents that otherwise might not occur. Mr. Mason said documented studies <br /> showed that vigorous traffic enforcement aimed at the types of violations that <br /> caused accidents would have an impact on accident and injury rates. He added <br /> that a maximum of six or seven officers sometimes was assigned to the IIGut." <br /> Mr. Gleason said direct cost savings would be about $25,000, plus another <br /> $5,000 to $10,000 for related costs such as overtime and court expenses. He <br /> also said the opportunity cost of lost redeployment was not possible to <br /> calculate but was substantial. <br /> Mayor Obie said he thought the council should consider whether cruising was a <br /> luxury the community could afford. <br /> Ms. Wooten asked about the costs of enforcing the proposed ordinance. Mr. <br /> Mason said he thought the same number of officers could be assigned to the <br /> area. He agreed with Ms. Wooten's observation that the resource commitment <br /> would not decline until the problem began to dissipate. Mr. Mason said other <br /> communities had experienced a drop in activity as soon as two weeks after <br /> passage of an ordinance. <br /> Ms. Schue said she thought a public hearing was needed. She noted that the <br /> proposed elimination of the "Gut" differed from past approaches, which had <br /> been attempts to contain and control problems. She said she thought <br /> elimination of cruising was a wonderful idea, but she had some concerns about <br /> the current proposal. <br /> e MINUTES--Eugene City Council Dinner/Work Session November 16, 1987 Page 5 <br />