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e e e unlikely that anyone would ever get billing credits for conservation accom- plished; and 4) conservation contracts. These are short-term conservation contracts which have been signed and continue until September 8, 1982. Also, there are long-term contracts that are now in negotiation. These will last 20 years. The public utilities, investor-owned utilities, and Bonneville Power Authority are involved in negotiations. There is now an umbrella agreement and there are five programs. These must be negotiated prior to September 8, 1982, and they must sign the firm power sales agreement. Payment from SPA depends upon the available funding, and retroactive funding may be possible. The long-term contracts will not be signed by March 1, 1982, as planned. They are trying to make this better, so they are taking more time. Bonneville Power is looking at certain kinds of things in this agreement such as who is eligible for the contracts, who pays for conservation, and whether termination will be mutual as it is now. She noted that on the second page of the information she distri- buted is information as to what is currently being paid for. Some of these items are shower flow restrictors, the water heat wrap program, the street and area lighting efficiency program, commercial conservation which began January 1, 1982, and the energy buy-back program. The third page of the information includes budgets approved by BPA from January 1, 1982, through September 8, 1982. There is over $5 million available from BPA supplemented by $2 million from EWEB. Ms. Reeder continued to state that the available measures are insulation and house tightening measures. Page 5 shows characteristics of houses that are not qualifying. This eliminates about 75 percent of the housing in the EWEB service area. Some of the reasons for not qualifying are use of ureaformaldehyde foam and use of wood stoves. About one third of the cost of weatherization is being paid directly by EWEB. Page 6 of the information shows Eugenels weatherization program. This is for customers using electrical space heat only. There is a difference between Eugene's ordinance and EWES's buy-back program. The colored papers that she distributed show how to take advantage of the program. The green sheet shows the tax credit replacement program. Up to $125 can be received retroactively, and this money does not come from BPA. The pink sheet shows where to go for finances if you are not a customer with electric space heat. The final sheet shows the long-term contract programs that will be worked on. Ms. Reeder stated that this is a 10-year program and it is complicated. They hoped to make it more clear. They are now scheduling energy audits in December. One problem that is putting them behind is hiring and training staff. They have completed over 100 energy analyses in the last three weeks and 6,000 were done previously. She indicated she would answer questions. Mayor Keller stated that it sounds like the programs are being well received. He asked how many people are being hired for installation. Ms. Reeder stated that 11 water heater wrappers are being hired and they are doing 95 analyses per week. The lag time is how long it takes to get an analysis. Ms. Wooten asked if it would be possible for EWEB to get help to perform the analyses so that customers do not get frustrated. She is sure people would like cheaper utility bills next winter. Ms. Reeder responded that they will be hiring more staff soon and training them. Ms. Miller thanked her for the presentation. She asked about the financing methods and if SPA pays EWES. Ms. Reeder stated that they get paid for the customers who have completed their jobs and have called back MINUTES--Eugene City Council February 10, 1982 Page 4