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e e e that population be used as a method of determining representation. He said the EPIC had decided to deal with that issue at a later time. He said he had not felt any sense of commitment by the EPIC to one type of composition over another. Mr. Pryor commented that the composition of the SOA may be an issue to be determined by the council when it meets with the Springfield City Council and the Lane Council Board of Commissioners. Mr. Gleason briefly reviewed the terms of SDA, Program Administrator, Program Providers, and PICs. He said the federal government had defined the terms but not the connection between the separate groups. He said the natural tendency was to develop a format for agendas such as has been done by the City Council. However, he said the issue of economic development would be decided by the individuals residing within the urban growth boundary. He said that the Cities of Eugene and Springfield had found that creating a new entity developed problems related to integration. He said the City Council has stressed that these problems must not be reinforced so that the metropolitan area and the programs such as sewers, fire, 911, courts can be integrated. He stressed that the City did not want to go back to any of the problems that had existed. Mr. Cook explained that the EPIC could incorporate as a PIC and still maintain the same system delivery and grant recipients. Mr. Gleason stated that the relationship with the City Council and governments in the future would be different. In an incorporated environment, he said the PIC would act indepen- dently if agreement was not reached with the government agencies. Mr. Beyer described the situation which existed in New York City with its three incoporated PICs, each claiming to be the primary PIC for the city. He said the real problem existed with the intergovernmental agreement tying the PIC to traditional governmental agencies. He explained that a non-profit agency exists on its own and cannot be eliminated unless that board chooses to do so. Mr. Forbes suggested that another term could be used which would not raise such concerns. He hoped that the two groups would remain open to any rationale and cost-saving program. Mayor Keller said the council has tried to be responsive and that the council will listen to any presentation from the EPIC. He thanked those present for their participation. The meeting was adjourned at 1:15 p.m. Respectfully submitted, 77~?~~ Mi c'a~7;f.~-- . City Manager (Recorded by Thorn Strunk) TS: cj /CM23a13 - MINUTES--Eugene City Council/Private Industry Council February 29, 1984 Page 8