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<br />e <br /> <br />-. ----- - -- <br />those streets that solutions would be sought. Too, he noted, the principle <br />talks about capacity criteria only. A different criteria might be involved <br />if places are discovered where drivers are avoiding congestion and overflowing <br />into neighborhoods. As it now stands, any street in danger of exceeding <br />Level E would fall into the category of a major problem area. <br /> <br />Al Williams, Traffic Engineer, clarified that, when talking about Level E, <br />the congestion would be for an hour-long condition. There may be situations <br />in which a street meets Level E for 10 or 20 minutes. When the guidelines were <br />put together,he said, it was the intent to make it clear that E is a <br />substantially higher congestion level than the metro area is experiencing at <br />present. Planning engineers went overboard in that direction, however, since <br />the public may not choose to accept that congestion. <br /> <br />Councilman Williams does not believe the community will accept a system in which <br />street improvement is not even considered for places exceeding Level E. To not <br />plan for a reasonably uncongested transportation system, which includes all <br />lTDdes, seems very unwise. <br /> <br />Mr. Murray thought it should be remembered that discussion is being confined <br />to level of service when in fact the plan is much broader than.that. It is <br />implausJble to him that Co~cil could collectively reach an opinion that the <br />community is demanding any simj1en-'thing. It seems wise only to assure that <br />there is some reasonable plan for the future. <br /> <br />Mr. Williams reiterated his concern that he does ,not believe the community <br />wishes to congest the area to a point worse than what it is now experiencing. <br /> <br />- <br /> <br />Mrs. Beal felt that previous testilTDny indicates the population does not want <br />lots of traffic. She wondered, though, if it is desirable to discourage use <br />of the auto by making traffic movement so difficult people will seek other <br />IOOdes. <br /> <br />Mr. Murray also alluded to the possibility of planning for street improvement <br />when the community decides it has had it with congestion and demands improvement. <br />Right now that condition does not exist, he added, and it seems devisive to build <br />roads not fallOred by the public. <br /> <br />In answer to Mr. Murray, Mayor Anderson noted a point overlooked, that there <br />should be sufficient lati tude to at least plan for improvement before <br />a road becomes so congested as to cause traffic hazards and impede alternative <br />flows that are considered important. The word "exceed" bothers him and he <br />suggested it would perhaps be mre comfortable to stipulate "reach level E". <br /> <br />ME. Williams moved seconded by Mr. Hamel to reconmend to the other <br />jurisdictions that, under Principle No.8, the word "reach" be substituted <br />for "exceed", to read that "streets and highways will be considered for <br />improvement where vol ume is projected to reach the maximum capaci ty <br />(level of service E) ." <br /> <br />Ccrrun <br />3/31/76 <br />Approve <br /> <br />Mr. Hamel expressed pride in staff and Council efforts in the past; as the area <br />has grown, they have not been one step behind but rather right in line in planning <br />efforts, he said. <br /> <br />-- Public Works Director remarked that, in arri ving at Level E, the engineers in <br />no way meant that they would design at Level E. <br /> <br />1'~ <br /> <br />4/12/76 - 19 <br />