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<br /> there is no reason not to let that committee address the question of ~ <br /> how appointments will be made. When they report back will determine Af <br /> which Council makes the appointments. <br /> G. Meeting Dates--Manager announced a Lane Transit District tour at <br /> 4:00 p.m. on December 2; Budget meeting at 7:30 p.m. December 2; <br /> and new Council members I briefings December 1 and 15, from 2:00 File <br /> to 6: 00 p.m. <br /> II. Jefferson Area Neighbors Charter Approval--Letter from David E. Munz and <br /> proposed charter have been distributed to Council members. Mr. Munz <br /> stated that the adopted boundaries are Willamette Street on the east, <br /> Chambers on the west, 13th on the north, and 18th on the south. He feels <br /> that the group will be a very volatile, involved organization. <br /> Mr. Murray moved seconded by Mrs. Beal that the City Council Approve <br /> approve the charter. Motion carried unanimously. <br /> III. Status of Refinement Plans--Report of November 18 from the Planning <br /> Department has been distributed to Council members. The report was <br /> prepared in response to Councilman Murray's request for information <br /> concerning the status of various refinement plans. The report details <br /> progress made on various refinement plans and also points out that the <br /> work load of the Planning Commission and staff is such that these neigh- <br /> borhood plans cannot be scheduled for immediate consideration. Mr. Murray <br /> questioned the distinction between a refinement plan and a neighbor- e <br /> hood plan. Planning director responded that a refinement plan is one in <br /> which a governmental agency has determined a need to have greater data or <br /> detail and has funded a plan through governmental action. A neighbor- <br /> hood plan is more of a plan generated by the neighborhood itself. He <br /> added that a neighborhood plan could, in fact, be a part of a refinement <br /> pI an . Mr. Murray wondered if neighborhood plans are intended to come <br /> before the City Council. Planning director responded that that is the <br /> question being asked in the report--how are the plans dealt with when <br /> agendas are so full already. Affirm <br /> Mr. Murray hoped that the Planning Department report would be given to <br /> neighborhood groups. He expressed personal frustration because neighbor- <br /> h~od groups do not know what is going on with their plan. Mrs. Shirey <br /> expressed concern that a neighborhood group could work for two years on a <br /> particular plan which would end up being a waste of time if the City <br /> Council cannot address it. She feels that the groups need an honest <br /> view of the future. Planning director felt that, if policies accepted by <br /> a neighborhood group are important, they do not have to have the blessings- <br /> of the City Council before using them. Many decisions can be made in <br /> neighborhoods that do not require City Council action, he said. He added <br /> that, in refinement plans, certain minimum things are required. There are <br /> certain budgetary limitations, and the City Council and Budget Committee <br /> are the bodies to allocate those resources. Mr. Williams feels that the <br /> discussion deals with more than simply refinement plans. "It deals wi th <br /> the amount of controlled documents that we as a society are requiring. We ~ <br /> have to look at the attempt to control every aspect of human behavior," he ,_ <br /> Sgg 12/13/76 - 4 <br />