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<br /> -- ------ <br /> the Planning Commission, and as a result of the hearing, he felt an <br /> e independent group should be established. It was not the intention to <br /> make this a neighborhood leaders' committee. <br /> Mr. Haws moved, seconded by Mr. Hamel, to accept the recommen- <br /> dation of the Planning Commission. <br /> Mr. Delay said he would vote no on the motion. He felt it important <br /> that the committee have a sense of independence and be responsible <br /> to City Council. He also felt it important to get this committee <br /> active and functioning as soon as possible. <br /> Mr. Obie said he would vote for the motion. He thought the pyramid <br /> approach through the proper channels, especially in regard to <br /> dealing with the specific land-use problems, was best and the group <br /> should be working directly with the Planning Commission. He felt <br /> the City Council was always open and available for citizens to make <br /> their wishes known. <br /> Mr. Lieuallen said he would vote no on this motion. He cited a <br /> low level of confidence in local government and in all levels of <br /> government, and creat:ilng an independent ci ti zens group woul d be a move <br /> in the right direction toward improving confidence. He also felt there <br /> might be a conflict of interest in the Commission, and expressed <br /> concern regarding the workload of the Commission. <br /> e Mr. Delay noted Council was talking about citizen participation <br /> and said he would feel more comfortable with an independent body <br /> reporting directly to Council. He asked what does citizen parti- <br /> cipation mean if you ignore citizen participation, citing the in- <br /> volvement of the evaluation committee and its recommendations that <br /> were being ignored. <br /> Mr. Bradley requested, seconded by Mr. Delay, to schedule a <br /> publiC hearing September 26 for more publiC testimony. <br /> Mr. Obie had the impression that once public hearing had been opened, <br /> an item could not be held over at that point. He requested counsel to <br /> clarify at what point the Council could decide to hold an item over. <br /> Stan Long, City Attorney's office, said his understanding of Council's <br /> intentions was any time prior to a vote an item could be held over by <br /> request of two Councilors. Mr. Williams did not think that was the <br /> intent of the Council. He felt the intent was that if an item was <br /> considered by two Councilors to be important to have public partici- <br /> pation, then it would be held over. He did not feel it fair to go <br /> through two or three hours of staff time and public participation only <br /> to hold an item over for final decision. Mr. Long reminded Council he <br /> had raised that point and Council had discussed the matter when the <br /> Bylaws were changed. His understanding was that the majority of <br /> Council intended to have an item set over at any time prior to a vote. <br /> Mr. Delay did not see the problem, saying he felt this was an important <br /> e <br /> 8/31/77--7 <br /> lo58 <br />