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<br /> t <br /> ~ <br /> time. He said the City could go back to its process of improving open e <br />/ ditches to the west of Coburg Road, but noted his staff was continually <br /> harrassed about open ditches now. He said the liability becomes greater <br /> to the City regarding the western side drainage as more development is <br /> done on the east. <br /> Mr. Delay asked Mr. Allen if his proposal for this particular storm <br /> sewer would be the same if the new existing city limits were the ex- <br /> tent to which it would encroach on farm land. Mr. Allen replied if <br /> the City could be assured the land would remain in a rural atmosphere, <br /> it would not build that large a system. He noted that the Cone/Breeden <br /> area is only 285 out of 650 acres to be served by the proposed storm <br /> sewer. He said the open ditches to the west of Coburg Road could be <br /> used, but the City still would be facing problems with that. Mr. Delay <br /> then wondered if Mr. Allen perceived the excess capacity as being a <br /> significant enough point to argue taking advantage of this capital <br /> development. Mr. Allen replied the cheapest way to construct a storm <br /> sewer is to do it right in the first place. He said there would eventu- <br /> ally be some kind of development on that land. If open ditches were <br /> used, he said the City would have to acquire the land from property <br /> owners by exercising power of eminent domain. He noted there was a <br /> significant savings between the open ditch drainage system and the <br /> proposed storm sewer. In response to a question from Mr. Lieuallen, <br /> Mr. Allen said he felt there was no other alternative because of the <br /> cost factor. <br /> Mr. Haws wondered if it were possible to require the people who have e <br /> not yet developed in the area to pay for the cost of putting in their <br /> own system. Mr. Allen replied the present policy is one where the <br /> City participates with the developer only on 24-inch storm sewers. <br /> In any area not already subdivided, the City pays for all of it. He <br /> said the City has never assessed stann sewers to property owners. <br /> Mr. Haws wondered if there were any way to accept the grant offer with <br /> the stipulation to preserve 500 acres agricultural land in the area. <br /> Mr. Long said that might occur whether or not Council so stipulated. <br /> He reviewed for Council the recent Cone/Breeden annexation and an <br /> uncertainty whether the City had complied with the State Goals and <br /> Guidelines adopted by LCDC. He said subsequent to that time, there is <br /> no question that future annexations will have to be more compatible <br /> with state land-use goals and guidelines, or state-approved compre- <br /> hensive plans. He noted it was a quasi-judicial matter. However, he <br /> noted that what happens to the future city limits is unknown, but this <br /> element would be present. <br /> Mr. Bradley said taking that legal fact into consideration, and assuming <br /> the area outside the city limits remained in agricultural use, he <br /> wondered if it made sense to put in 84-inch storm sewers at this time. <br /> Mr. Obie felt that kind of discussion should go on at the time con- <br /> sideration of the update of the 1990 Plan was made by Council, and that <br /> Council should act now in accordance with the plan in existence at <br /> this time. Mayor Keller said Councilors could make all kinds of assum- <br /> ptions, but the issue at hand was to accept or not accept the grant offer. . <br /> 9/6/77--6 <br /> ~r <br />