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<br />- <br /> <br />Mr. Williams responded it is impossible to answer the question. Council <br />was dealing in a situation in which it did not know how much energy <br />would be available or the state of automobile technology, or what personal <br />transit vehicles will be used 20 years from now. There will be massive <br />societal changes that could effect the Plan, which are difficult to <br />determine at this time. Mayor Keller said the biggest key to the problem <br />would be the five-year update. <br /> <br />e <br /> <br />Mr. Obie wondered if consideration was given to developing incremental <br />goals. Mr. Porter said part of the decision in reaching the 15 percent <br />goal was the rationale of trying to get people to use modes of transpor- <br />tation other than single-ridership automobiles. He said it had to be <br />looked at more in a philosophical way, as it was not known how to reach <br />15-percent goal from the current two to three percent. He said it was a <br />philosophy that it would be better if the community were not completely <br />relying on automobile transportation by the year 2000. <br /> <br />Mr. Allen said the only consolation he could give is that in the process <br />of reaching this goal, there had been many bodies strewn along the way of <br />reduci ng the goal down to 15 percent from 100 percent. . <br /> <br />Mr. Obie then wondered if it might be better to use some language that <br />forgot about specific percentages and talked about where Council is trying <br />to go and what it is trying to do, thereby eliminating the controversy of <br />the percentage transit goal. Mr. Porter said technologically, a percen- <br />tage is needed for modeling for facilities over a considerable time frame. <br />He thought the 15 percent goal for the City of Eugene to be a proper one <br />model for future transportation systems. If the 15 percent predicted goal <br />were not used, there would be considerable difference in the facilities <br />that were being proposed for the year 2000. Mr. Farah said if in 1985, <br />there were a four-percent transit ridership, the same alignments regarding <br />facilities to handle greater capacity would be recommended by staff. <br /> <br />Mr. Delay reiterated one of the greatest assets of the plan was the way it <br />defers capital investments, noting it was really buying time. Mr. Obie <br />did not think it was buying time. He felt it was creating a potential of <br />forcing people out of their cars because they could not use the streets <br />because of congestion. He did not think that to be good transportation <br />planning. Mr. Delay did not feel staff was reflecting Mr. Obie's comments <br />in this Plan, but rather recommending a plan to avoid service level <br />E. <br /> <br />e <br /> <br />Mr. Williams reminded Council of the lack of funding for the Plan, <br />noting the lack of money for present street programs. He felt the whole <br />concept of the plan was a farce as there was no money with which to build <br />it. Mr. Allen felt the staff was in error in leading Council through the <br />exerci se because it mi ght go on and on until money was found to buil d it. <br />He noted the City was the lowest level for financing. If the Federal and <br />State have no money, the City's chances of raising it were pretty slim. <br />There are many projects which need to be done, but the funding capability <br />simply is not there. However, he felt the City was doing a good job of <br />planning within its means. <br /> <br />5/10/78-13 <br /> <br />352. <br />