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e Ms. Wooten asked Ms. Lannom to elaborate on Mr. Pearson's objections as stated in the Planning Commission minutes. Ms. Lannom noted that he was concerned that the commission would be able to logically prohibit people in the private sector of the economy from doing something that the commission and council had permitted LTD to do. This would be an encroachment into the sign ordinance and leave it open for other amendments. He did not know how far that would even- tually go. Ms. Lannom felt that Mr. Pearson's arguments were the most cogent ones. Ms. Mulder questioned how far the City should go to help LTD get addi- tional revenue. Ms. Wooten was concerned about the long-range financing of LTD. She asked Mr. Kohnen if the loss of $800,000 in Federal funding is correct and whether LTD has plans to compensate for that larger amount of money, or whether they will be trying to figure out how to keep the buses going. Mr. Kohnen said $800,000 was correct in that that is the amount that they are currently receiving from the government. It is his understanding that it will be phased out. They do not have plans at the present time for replacement of that money. They are seeking additional revenue sources. Nothing is in sight. They have had to cut service. Ms. Wooten asked about the relationship of ridership to the increase in fares. Mr. Kohnen said that ridership has declined, in part because gasoline is plenti- ful, not solely because of the increase in fares. The fare revenue is up over the previous year. Ridership is down. Ms. Wooten said she would support Mr. Obie's suggestion of a joint meeting. e Ms. Smith felt the $50,000 in advertising revenue would help the buses. She supported the LTD advertising guidelines. She noted there would have to be a joint meeting with the Planning Commission. She asked how soon that could take place and was told May 27, 1981. Mr. Obie moved, seconded by Ms. Smith, to reject the amendment suggested by the Planning Commission and that the council adver- tise for a joint public meeting with the Planning Commission to be held on May 27, 1981, to consider the proposed amendment as prepared for the Planning Commission to Section 8.670 of the Sign Code. . Ms. Miller stated that while $50,000 is not a lot of money compared to the overall budget, it still is a large amount of money. She shared some of Commissioner Pearson's concerns that while it may be anomalous to single out one entity because it is the bus service, there may be reasons for singling out that entity. The issue has not been explored carefully. She hoped that it would be considered at the joint meeting with the Planning Commission. Motion carried unanimously. Mr. Obie asked that the council place on the agenda soon the question of the requirement that the council hold a joint meeting with the Planning Commission on these issues. Ms. Smith suggested re-evaluating these instances. Mr. Gleason said that they would bring the item back to the council. e MINUTES--Eugene City Council April 27, 1981 Page 4