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concern is dealing with causes that are unpopular and will invite violence to e their members. The more unpopular the cause, the more hazardous the health and safety of the participants will become. This is exacerbated by the requirement that parade leaders be identified by badges so they will be marked as targets, especially if the parade is for an unpopular cause. Freedom of expression of ideas should be encouraged, particularly when those ideas are unpopular. Popular ideas really do not need protection. They would hope this item would be deferred so they could provide alternative legislation. Marion Malcolm, 795 Willamette, stated that she is from Clergy and Laity Con- cerned. She agrees with Mr. Goldstein that this draft is an improvement. The changes are compatible with the right of citizens to peaceful assembly. She shares the reservations which Mr. Goldstein enumerated. With regard to 5.520 (permit revocation), in Eugene, there has been a long history of peaceful protest. There have been provocateurs in some cases operating here in Eugene. This section, as now written, could play into the hands of provocateurs or a couple of stray individuals who did not share the goals and aims of the parade as designed by the organizers. The wording suggested by Goldstein would probably solve that problem if there is a clause which states that the permit should be revoked "only if there is a threat to public safety and that that threat has not been able to be contained." Bob Goldin, 110 Mayfair Lane, stated that he is from the Coalition for Social Justice. He endorsed the suggestions made by Malcolm and Goldstein and appre- ciates the improvements. They would like to be kept informed of any continuing changes which may occur. They plan to put together a large march and rally on November 7, 1981, to deal with the issue of Ronald Reagan's economic and social e policies and they would hope to see some of the council there. This is an important and ongoing issue and they appreciate the work that has been done so far. They would hope that the changes would be made so that the ordinance is protective of civil liberties. There being no further testimony, public hearing was closed. Ms. Smith asked for staff response to the suggestions given in the testimony. Mr. Swanson responded that he had received a copy of Mr. Goldstein's letter today and reviewed the suggestions. In regard to directing the ordinance to the organ- izers rather than the participants, organizers must realize that parade benefits and risks will both have to be accepted. Staff is concerned that Mr. Goldstein's suggestions would inject more subjective standards into the ordinance. Violence is violence, and the police can enforce on an individual basis if instances are of an individual nature. However, if individual enforcement does not stop violence, 'then officers must do what is necessary to protect the public safety. He is concerned that changes suggested for Section 5.505 (4) would introduce a number of criteria and cause it to be more subjective than the current draft. He does not feel this is an improvement. In regard to permit revocation, his comment would be the same in regard to the violence factor. In response to Mr. Goldstein's fourth suggestion, staff would recommend that Sundays be excluded and the council could amend that section of Administrative Rule 6. Ms. Smith asked if the staff recommendation for Rule 6 would still include Saturday. Mr. Swanson stated that that would be up to the council, but sometimes Saturday traffic can be heavy. - MINUTES--Eugene City Council October 12, 1981 Page 3