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Mr. Fart suggested that it was not that any project would be "killed," but would be delayed for 20 years. Mr. <br />Pirrie concurred. Mr. Fart said that the projects did not need to be removed from the 20-year constrained <br />plan, even if up to $61 million is added for the parkway, but can be left in the plan, just not in their entirety. <br />Mr. Schwetz said that it was necessary to keep within the $172 million constraint. <br /> <br />Mr. Fart asked if it was realistic to think that the members of the OTC will not allow emotions to enter into <br />their decisions, regarding other projects in the area, given the response of the Eugene City Council to suspend <br />the parkway, thus invalidating the work of both ODOT and the OTC. Mr. Pirrie said that he could not speak <br />for the OTC. He said that it would be important to look at the engineering data that was available and look at <br />the competing priorities/projects and recognizing that there is greater need than there are funds, and that <br />funds would be reallocated. <br /> <br />Mr. Gaydos asked Robert Cortwright of the Department of Land Conservation and Development to speak to <br />the letter he sent last week, specifically statement in the third paragraph, 'If this major facility is removed <br />from the plan, then Eugene must assess the consequences on the transportation system and reconfigure <br />land uses and the transportation system to provide a match between land use and the planned <br />transportation system." Mr. Cortwright said that his letter was not intended to address the federal financial <br />constraint requirement; rather, it was intended to address the State transportation planning rules. The <br />implication that DLCD has made is that the parkway would be removed not just from TransPlan, but from <br />any plan. The process for accomplishing this would be initiating a comprehensive plan amendment or <br />through the adoption of TransPlan, when that adoption occurs. <br /> <br />Ms. Nathanson observed that the $88 million was not an astonishing amount of money, put into context with <br />other projects. She asked about the costs of recent transportation projects. Mr. Reinhard responded that the <br />Ferry Street Bridge project totaled $30 million and that the West 11th projects--Beltline to Danebo and <br />Danebo to Terry Street--totaled $4 million to $5 million. <br /> <br />Ms. Nathanson spoke about the process that would be required for another project, which culminates with a <br />review with an approval or denial with the OTC. She asked if it would be legal to make a direct appeal to the <br />OTC. Mr. Pirrie responded that anyone can go to any public board, including the OTC. However, there is a <br />process which the OTC has asked be followed. <br /> <br />Ms. Nathanson suggested that if there was a proposal that the Joint Elected Officials (JEO) could agree to, <br />the JEO could appeal directly to the OTC and bypass a two-three year long process, as well as bypass the <br />need to compete with other projects. Mr. Green responded, as the Lane County representative for the region, <br />that Lane County does not compete well with other projects because many of its projects are still in the study <br />state. Lane County needs to compete not only within the region, but also statewide for project funding. As <br />an analogy, Mr. Green said that the best approach would be to consider the project as an orange--ODOT <br />wants the peel, Lane County wants the fruit. He did not think that going directly to OTC would be in the best <br />interest of the region. Ms. Nathanson commented that if Lane County then has to compete, it is back at the <br />bottom of the list. Mr. Green said that this was the risk that was being taken by dropping the parkway from <br />the project list. <br /> <br />Ms. Nathanson asked if the federal funding rule, adopted in 1998, had been challenged, even though this <br />project was approved prior to that time. Mr. Schwetz said that the requirement for financial constraint was <br /> <br />MINUTES-Joint Meeting- Eugene City Council February 20, 2001 Page 6 <br /> Lane County Commissioners/Lane Transit District Board Members <br /> <br /> <br />