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extend the zone to Lincoln Street. There was also a tendency for people to gather on 10th Avenue on the south <br />side of the road. <br /> <br />Councilor Bettman asked if expansion of the boundary could be included in the ordinance before the council. <br />Mr. Klein indicated he would prefer to return with another draft ordinance. <br /> <br />Councilor Taylor asked why the people who were excluded would obey the exclusion if they were people who <br />did not obey the law. Officer Smith responded that police staff tracked such individuals when they returned to <br />the area to address any issues that might arise immediately. She said that offenders get tired of the process and <br />in most cases people are only excluded once. Those offenders who violate the exclusion order can be cited for <br />trespass and taken to j ail. Councilor Taylor asked why they could not just be taken to j ail for the infraction <br />they committed. Officer Smith said that was what police initially did; now there was a problem with offenders <br />being matrixed from the jail. She confirmed, in response to a follow-up question from Councilor Taylor, that <br />those j ailed for violating exclusion ordinances could be matrixed too. <br /> <br />Responding to a question from Councilor Taylor about the citations given for criminal trespass, Lt. Roberts <br />said such citations were usually issued because people were on property they had no right to be on or because <br />they violated the exclusion order. The "Other" category of crime included such offenses as shoplifting and <br />criminal mischief. He could recall no exclusion orders issued for violations of the mall rules. Generally, the <br />exclusion orders were issued for drug offenses, drug abuse, alcohol violations, urinating in public, assault, and <br />robbery. <br /> <br />Councilor Taylor asked if people excluded stopped committing crimes or committed them somewhere else. Lt. <br />Roberts said they probably do both. Most of the people in downtown who have been cited have repeat <br />offender histories. The exclusion order gets them out of downtown and the network of people they socialize <br />with. <br /> <br />Councilor Nathanson commented that 2001 reports were only for a partial year, and she thought it misleading <br />to plot that information on a chart in the manner it was presented. Even though the year was incomplete, it <br />looked as though fewer exclusion ordinances were issued. She asked the reason why. Lt. Roberts said that <br />through addressing the issues on the mall proactively, the police had broken up significant-sized crowds that <br />hid criminal activity in the past. It was harder for people to commit crimes so they tended to leave the mall to <br />do so. He thought the drop in activity was a positive sign as well as a sign the ordinance was working. <br /> <br />Councilor Nathanson thought the charts indicated good news in terms of increased safety on the mall and <br />hoped there was a commensurate drop in other types of criminal activities. Lt. Roberts said the crime rate is <br />dropping in downtown compared to previous years, indicating a slight downward trend. He added that the <br />mall exclusion ordinance was just one piece of the puzzle the police were using to address the issues; a <br />combination of policing tools had the most effect. <br /> <br />Mayor Torrey asked about the number of appeals of mall exclusion orders. Lt. Roberts said since adoption of <br />the ordinance, there were four appeals; two were upheld, and two were dismissed. Mayor Torrey asked if Lt. <br />Roberts thought the appeals indicated the police used bad judgment. Lt. Roberts said no; he thought that an <br />appeal rate of less than one percent indicated officers were using good judgment in how they used the <br />ordinance. <br /> <br /> MINUTES--Eugene City Council April 23, 2001 Page 7 <br /> Regular Meeting <br /> <br /> <br />