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Mr. Johnson said that the laboratory, evidence, and special operations functions have no need for <br />public access because they were not visited by the public. Ms. Bettman asked about Eugene <br />Police Department staff, suggesting that they were going to be driving out to the facility from City <br />Hall. Mr. Johnson clarified that would be their reporting place of work. He acknowledged <br />evidence would have to be delivered to the facility. However, providing a space in a new <br />downtown facility would be very expensive, as opposed to a less expensive, Iow-cost utility <br />building at the Roosevelt facility. <br /> <br />Ms. Bettman persisted, reiterating that she wanted to look at the recommendation in the context <br />of the big picture: what were the efficiencies, what could be gained, and could the City separate <br />some of those uses but combine others. Once the money was spent on the Roosevelt facility, the <br />City did not have it to create more space so it could consolidate services, and she was trying to <br />avoid the expenditure. Mr. Johnson said that staff was trying to give the council the data to make <br />the comparison Ms. Bettman sought. <br /> <br />Responding to a question from Mr. Rayor, Mr. Johnson confirmed that the master plan was a long- <br />term plan so land could be acquired as it came up for sale. Mr. Rayor wanted to ensure that <br />support for the master plan was not support for condemnation. Mr. Johnson said that Mr. Rayor <br />was talking about a plan that was not yet developed. If the programming and space needs <br />indicated a building of a certain size was needed and more land required, and the sellers were not <br />willing, the council would have to make a choice about condemnation. <br /> <br />Mr. Rayor said it was clear more space was needed at the Roosevelt site. He questioned whether <br />the nature of the facility lent itself to multi-story development, suggesting that in a public works <br />setting requiring lots of vehicles and pavement it might be unrealistic. He said he wanted to think <br />more about that. He also did not want to disturb the existing neighborhood. Mr. Johnson pointed <br />out that the adjacent neighborhood was zoned industrial. Mr. Rayor acknowledged that but noted <br />it was true of other Iow-income residential neighborhoods as well. <br /> <br />Mr. Svendsen said staff was thinking of approaching the master plan by combining long- and <br />short-term views. In the short-term, there were options to address the property as currently <br />configured; that could include a minimalist acquisition strategy. He thought the master plan would <br />have elements that addressed some of the concerns about the adjacent neighborhood expressed <br />by councilors. <br /> <br />Ms. Nathanson said that there were certain uses that the council wanted downtown and other <br />uses more appropriately located elsewhere. She said that given the fact the 2nd Avenue and <br />Chambers Street site was the geographic center of the city, there was a certain efficiency to its <br />use. She thought that explosives disposal or equipment storage were land-intensive uses without <br />a lot of public traffic and did not need to be downtown to support either compact urban growth or <br />the public transportation system. Ms. Nathanson wanted to locate uses with public traffic in <br />downtown. <br /> <br />Mr. Meisner was comfortable with the first motion recommended for consideration and hoped the <br />staff would look carefully at the programming to determine whether the staff needed to be moved <br />along with the vehicles. He said that the Public Works yards also contained office operations, and <br />he hoped the City could integrate some of those functions with leased space now used by the <br />Public Works staff in downtown. He reiterated his concerns about sprawling into the adjacent <br /> <br /> MINUTES--Eugene City Council April 25, 2001 Page 4 <br /> Work Session <br /> <br /> <br />