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the public and private sector. Mr. Farmer acknowledged no further staff follow-up had occurred <br />on Mr. Kelly's suggestions for Iow-income loans and local improvement districts. <br /> <br />Mr. Pap~ expressed appreciation to Mr. Moore for his expertise. He asked if the City's policies <br />related to the cost of parking was establishing the market, or if the City was part of the market. <br />Mr. Moore said that the City had a large part of the supply, but given the economics of surface <br />parking, that continued to work for the private sector. Mr. Moore said that people were generally <br />paying no more for parking in private lots than in public structured parking. He said that the City <br />could charge more, but the market was bigger than the downtown. Mr. Moore pointed out there <br />were private lots in downtown and businesses had the option of relocating to another place in the <br />community. The higher the parking rate, the more the disincentive there was for businesses to <br />locate downtown. <br /> <br />Mr. Moore said that much of the discussion about parking was about fairness on one hand and <br />efficiency on the other. He understood Mr. Meisner's concerns about subsidization, but if the City <br />did not subsidize parking, what happened? Did the private market step in? In his opinion, the <br />answer was no. The private sector would walk away because of the economics. He thought the <br />City faced tough choices. While subsidization might not feel fair, the question was, how much did <br />the City want development to occur in downtown. <br /> <br />Mr. Pap~ referred to Portland and its parking partnerships and asked if Mr. Moore had a sense of <br />the break off in population before such partnerships worked. Mr. Moore did not. He pointed to the <br />level of density in Portland and said that as development occurred and the land was consumed for <br />other purposes and no surface parking could be built, businesses needed the parking to operate <br />and structures then made economic sense. Eugene was not in that position. Mr. Moore <br />suggested that another way to think about the issue was to consider eastern Oregon; the federal <br />government had built many dams and provided subsidized water to farmers. The subsidy made <br />the desert land economic to farm; in its absence, the land was not economic to farm. The <br />economy was based on the assumption the subsidy was there. If policy changed and the federal <br />government charged the real price of water, it would result in a painful economic turnaround for a <br />lot of people. He said that the issue of whether the parking subsidy was a good idea was a <br />difficult one; however, in the medium term, there would be less development and less density in <br />downtown if the subsidy did not exist. <br /> <br />Ms. Bettman said she could not consider the issue of downtown parking without considering the <br />issue of parking citywide. While she agreed with Mr. Moore's conclusions, she believed the City <br />was subsidizing surface lots outside the downtown by financing the transportation infrastructure to <br />get people back and forth quickly so they could access such developments, and surface lots <br />require land that could be used for other purposes. Such land did not generate the tax revenue it <br />would if developed as a more intense use. Sprawl resulted, which cost the community more <br />money. Ms. Bettman said those costs were not reflected in the information presented by Mr. <br />Moore. In terms of the potential that an increase in parking costs or a tax on parking would drive <br />development out of downtown, Ms. Bettman said that development was moving to the periphery <br />anyway. The only way she could justify subsidized parking downtown was by taxing parking <br />outside downtown. She acknowledged the memorandum the council had received about the <br />issue, but said it was not what she had expected; she had expected a range of options that would <br />allow the council to move forward with a tax on parking outside downtown. The staff <br />memorandum appeared to be an argument for not moving forward. <br /> <br /> MINUTES--Eugene City Council May 30, 2001 Page 3 <br /> Work Session <br /> <br /> <br />