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Councilor Kelly stressed that he had worked with Ms. Ban and Mr. ©'Brien and respected them both. He said that the committee was never said to be representative of the community at large and opined that it was too small in size to be representative. He expressed a desire to see a deliberative committee and commented that the remaining eight members would be deliberative. Regarding the question of someone living outside the city limits serving on the committee, Councilor Kelly stressed that the Eugene Code, cited in the agenda packet, specifically said committee members were required to live within the urban growth boundary of Eugene. The amendment failed, 4:3; councilors Pap~, Nathanson, and Fart voting yes. The main motion failed, 5:2; councilors Taylor and Bettman voting yes. Councilor Meisner thanked Freeman Holmer for many years of community service, both as a City Councilor and as a member of numerous City committees and civic organizations. Councilor Meisner, seconded by Councilor Kelly, moved to reduce the size of the Citizen Charter Review Committee from nine members to eight by eliminating Position 5. Councilor Pap~ reiterated Councilor Meisner's comments regarding Freeman Holmer. Councilor Pap~, seconded by Councilor Fart, moved to table the motion. Roll call vote; the motion failed, 4:3; councilors Pap~, Fart, and Nathanson voting yes. Councilor Fart expressed concern that the committee was not geographically representative. Councilor Kelly said that the committee was dealing with complex subject matter and had already been working for seven months. He opined that there was no way to bring someone on, late in the process, and expect them to become an equal participant. He encouraged both Ms. Ban and Mr. ©'Brien to keep attending meetings and offering suggestions during the time allotted for public input at the meetings. Councilor Nathanson raised concern over making a decision about the make-up of the Charter Review Committee without the entire City Council in attendance. She noted that Councilor Rayor had concerns over the balance of representation on the committee and said she would not support a motion to simply remove a position. She did not believe it would take too long for the nominees to catch up with the rest of the committee. Councilor Pap~ agreed with Councilor Nathanson and added that the topics discussed were separate and new topics could be easily picked up by a new member. Roll call vote; the motion passed, 4:3; councilors Pap~, Nathanson, and Fart voting in opposition. Mayor Torrey adjourned the regular session and called to order a work session on PeaceHealth siting options to be held in the McNutt Room of Eugene City Hall. MINUTES--Eugene City Council July 9, 2001 Page 6 Regular Session