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other measures, and the size of the proposed bond. He favored a smaller bond, and supported <br />Mr. Meisner's suggestion for a police-only approach. <br /> <br />Ms. Taylor said that those she spoke to resented the apparent suddenness of the measure and <br />were not confused. She called for a planning process for all City space needs with extensive <br />public involvement before any election was held. She supported a fire-only measure because <br />the current facility was inadequate for both staff and equipment and the cost of new fire <br />headquarters was less than the cost of new police headquarters. Ms. Taylor also wanted to <br />identify a specific site for the fire headquarters. <br /> <br />Mayor Torrey noted his surprise that the survey indicated respondents supported a new police <br />headquarters more than a new fire headquarters. He wanted to place a measure on the <br />November ballot to avoid the 50 percent voter turnout requirement, and to take advantage of the <br />momentum created by the May election. <br /> <br />Mayor Torrey said that he was interested in the Sears building as a location for the police <br />headquarters in part to provide a police presence in that area. He suggested that parking <br />needed for that facility could be made available at off-hours for library parking. <br /> <br />Mayor Torrey suggested the survey results indicated that the voters might have supported the <br />measure if the council had done a better job of making a case for the measure. He agreed with <br />Mr. Kelly's remarks about the need to maintain credibility, but suggested that a phased square <br />footage approach might be acceptable to the voters. <br /> <br />Mayor Torrey indicated support for a police-only measure. He also concurred with councilors who <br />called for more comprehensive space planning. <br /> <br />Mr. Johnson noted some concerns about the council's schedule given the many follow-up items <br />identified by councilors. He suggested some agenda items now scheduled may have to be <br />postponed, or meetings added. <br /> <br />Responding to a question from Mr. Lee, Mr. Johnson anticipated that staff would meet with the <br />citizen members of the Police and Fire Stations Task Force, but did not plan to reconvene the <br />task force. <br /> <br />Mr. Rayor suggested that the level of detail provided about the costs of the facilities was "so <br />great that it's kind of like a snow job." He averred that the council did not understand the <br />information, and that it had been told that failure to support one element of the proposal would <br />cause the entire proposal to collapse like a deck of cards. He said that was not true. He wanted <br />to divide the issue, and wanted the proposal to be smaller and leaner "whether the numbers say <br />it works or not, because it can always be made to work." He opined that staff was unable to <br />differentiate between a "whole pie, and a mostly whole pie." Mr. Rayor called on staff to be <br />innovative, adding that if staff brought the council scenarios that went much over a page, then <br />the council "was not dealing with policy anymore, we are being interior decorators." <br /> <br />Mr. Farr agreed with Mr. Kelly regarding the issue of credibility. However, he pointed out that Mr. <br />Meisner's suggestion for a police-only measure and the potential of using City-owned land could <br />reduce the cost of a measure without compromising the City's credibility. <br /> <br />MINUTES--Eugene City Council June 7, 2000 Page 5 <br /> Work Session <br /> <br /> <br />