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Mr. Farr concurred with Mr. Meisner's remarks about bonding for the larger building size. He <br />suggested that once the stations were constructed, the City could save lease payments by <br />moving services in rented facilities to City Hall. Mr. Johnson concurred. <br /> <br />Mr. Fart suggested that a second bond measure could be successful because the first measure <br />helped to create awareness of the need for the new facilities. He thought the timing of the <br />November ballot measure was good and the reduced cost of the option appropriate. <br /> <br />Mr. Pap~ also concurred with Mr. Meisner's remarks. He did not understand why there was any <br />controversy about the topic as both fire and police were essential services and needed new <br />locations. He thought Option 3 was the best option before the council. He thought that <br />proceeding with the fire station first would severely impact the lead time the police station would <br />require for design. Mr. Pap~ said he was not interested in spending any more money on the <br />current City Hall because it was structurally and functionally obsolete and it could not be <br />significantly improved. <br /> <br />Ms. Nathanson said that it appeared the City could spend several million dollars to remodel City <br />Hall without realizing any additional space. Mr. Johnson said that depended on what happened <br />with employees working in the basement. He said that the council indicated support for moving <br />employees out of that area. Mr. Carlson agreed with Ms. Nathanson that the remodel would not <br />add space but would improve the existing space. Ms. Nathanson was also not interested in <br />investing millions of dollars without getting more for the public in terms of usable space. <br /> <br />Ms. Nathanson did not want to accept an alternative because it had the lowest dollar figure. She <br />said that apparent bargains are not always such a good deal. <br /> <br />Mayor Torrey emphasized the need to relocate the police to a new facility. He liked Option 3. He <br />thought that the approach provided for both the Police and Fire departments over time. He said <br />a failure to build now meant that building would cost more later. Regarding the potential of using <br />the Sears site near the library and creating a civic center, Mayor Torrey noted his past advocacy <br />of the site for a police station. He thought that bringing police into the general geographic area <br />would have a calming effect. However, he acknowledged the lack of council support for the <br />option. <br /> <br />Mr. Kelly reiterated his support for new fire and police facilities but wanted to place a measure <br />before the voters that would receive support. For that reason, he supported Option 2. Regarding <br />further investments to City Hall, he said if the council had shown support for Option 2 he would <br />have suggested a seismic retrofit of the office space as part of that bond measure. He <br />acknowledged the cost of such a retrofit but thought it was unlikely the City would get a new City <br />Hall in the next ten years. <br /> <br />Mr. Kelly said that the County would have a public safety measure on the November ballot, and <br />he suggested that it might be easier for the public to distinguish between the City's and County's <br />measures if the City's were focused on a new fire station. <br /> <br />Mr. Johnson emphasized the need for a police station adjacent to City Hall, noting the site under <br />consideration was adjacent to the building, was in public ownership, and convenient to the courts <br />and District Attorney's Office. <br /> <br />MINUTES--Eugene City Council July 17, 2000 Page 4 <br /> Work Session <br /> <br /> <br />