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Mayor Torrey closed the hearing. Councilor Taylor expressed her pleasure to see students testifying at the hearing. She expressed her interest in reviewing the ordinance proposed by the ASU©. She commented that the City's proposed ordinance was too extreme. She added that 90 days was far too long to constitute a frequent event. Councilor Meisner said that students would, and should be, constitutionally outraged if the City enacted an ordinance that targeted students. He opined that the ordinance did not do so. He added that they should be equally outraged if an ordinance was passed that gave some sort of immunity to students only. Councilor Meisner said that the main question was who should pay for the extraordinary costs of paying police overtime. He noted that citation money went to the State and municipal courts. Councilor Meisner said that he would review the student proposal. Councilor Meisner called for legal staff to address how the ordinance could be implemented on public property. Councilor Pap~ thanked the ASU© students for testifying and trying to address the problem by creating their own ordinance. Councilor Kelly reiterated Councilor Papa's comments and suggested that ASU© give staff a phone number and e-mail address so that council could contact the organization with questions. Councilor Kelly was generally supportive of the ordinance. He suggested language in the ordinance that if no arrests were made then any assessment should be refunded. He also raised concern over the ten person definition of a significant gathering. Councilor Kelly called for a separate response from staff on the subject of officers going through windows without warrants to issue MIP citations. Councilor Rayor expressed his pleasure that students testified at the hearing. He stressed that the ordinance was for the entire city and not singling out students. He noted that the council waited until school was back in session before they voted on the item. He expressed a desire to work with the ASU© to work out an option that was more palatable to students. Councilor Fart commented that the process was working and would eventually come up with the best possible solution. He thanked the students for testifying in the hearing. Councilor Bettman questioned the definition of 10 people as a significant gathering. She called for information from staff as to why that number was picked. Regarding frequency of events, Councilor Bettman remarked that the 90-day rule was a deterrent that she supported. Councilor Bettman said that she generally was not in favor of fee-based police action, but noted that there was a problem that needed a deterrent. Mayor Torrey complimented the ASU© for its work on the ordinance it proposed. He said it was as good a piece of work as he had seen presented to council. MINUTES--Eugene City Council October 10, 2000 Page 8 Regular Meeting