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at $0th Avenue and Donald Street. There were ten structures higher than eight stories in a 12- <br />block radius of City Hall, the majority of which house senior citizens, but only 50 percent of the <br />ladder capacity was in downtown. Mr. Brown saw no point in separating the issue on the ballot. <br />If one service moved and the other stayed, City Hall would still have to be retrofitted to a higher <br />standard at high cost to the taxpayers. <br /> <br />Mayor Torrey closed the public hearing. He asked the council for questions or comments, and if <br />it wished to take action that evening. <br /> <br />Councilor Taylor did not think the council should take action that night. She also felt the issues <br />on the ballot should be split, and that the fire issue was more urgent than the police issue. She <br />believed a fire issue would have a better chance of passage because it cost less money. She <br />said that all employees needed to be safe, not just the police, and City Hall should be upgraded <br />for that reason. Councilor Taylor said that since the police work three shifts and only one-third <br />would be on duty, and because most of the force would be patrolling or somewhere other than <br />City Hall if an earthquake struck, she did not think the service would be paralyzed, while the <br />same was not true of fire. <br /> <br />Responding to Mr. Biggs' testimony, Councilor Kelly did not take self-selected polls such as <br />television polls seriously and said that they were "less than nothing" in terms of accuracy. <br />Regarding the total tax load, Councilor Kelly said that he had occasion to ask how the rating <br />agencies consider the City's total debt load in relationship to how much it could legally carry, and <br />was told the City was very conservative in the debt it carried. Regarding Councilor Taylor's <br />remarks about the need for a seismic retrofit to protect all employees, he agreed, but pointed out <br />that it would be much cheaper if City Hall had no essential services. Responding to Ms. <br />Cleveland's testimony, Councilor Kelly said that the issue of a new city hall was no longer an <br />issue as the City Council had indicated to the General Services Administration it was not <br />interested in selling the current City Hall. He said that the council was not attempting to justify <br />the expenditure a the basis of fear of crime; it was because the current police facilities in the <br />basement of City Hall were undersized, poorly ventilated, and intended for storage, not as work <br />space. The goal of the task force was to give the current force adequate space to work, and the <br />future force room to expand at the same ratio of police officers to the population 20 years in the <br />future. <br /> <br />Councilor Kelly said that concerns about some police policies may be legitimate and he was <br />working to resolve them with staff, but they were not relevant to the issue of whether the police <br />should have an adequate and safe space to work. <br /> <br />Councilor Meisner noted his agreement with the remarks of Councilor Kelly. He said that those <br />who drew an analogy to the library drew an accurate analogy; the library was too small and <br />spaces never intended for use by employees or the public were in active use. Mr. Meisner said <br />the same thing was true of City Hall. If City Hall was upgraded seismically to include essential <br />services, the facility would lose much usable space. He noted current prevention activities <br />conducted by the police, and said those programs could not be expanded if there was no space <br />for employees to work in. Mr. Meisner said that the task force members had pressed staff about <br />every number, and he believed that the proposal was about as inexpensive as possible. <br /> <br />Mr. Meisner reminded Mr. Biggs that the library bond was for operations only, not capital costs. <br />The library was being constructed with Urban Renewal Agency revenues, proceeds from the sale <br />of assets, and donations. He said he was not a fan of the property tax, but in the absence of <br /> <br />MINUTES--Eugene City Council February 28, 2000 Page 12 <br /> Regular Meeting <br /> <br /> <br />