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Mr. Fart said the council needed to keep in mind both the uniformed officers and the support <br />services, such as Mac McFadden's outreach to campers. He said that those services helped free <br />up police for other services at a relatively Iow cost. <br /> <br />Mr. Pap~ said he wanted more police on the streets and in the substations, but thinks that requires <br />coupling those efforts with more community awareness, such as through the neighborhood watch <br />programs. He said that all citizens needed to take responsibility for safety in the neighborhood <br />and learn how to coordinate efforts with the cops on the beats and the substations. He suggested <br />that the City could use existing resources to employ the fire stations as safe houses, increase its <br />efforts with the neighborhood watches, and educate the community with the result that there may <br />be fewer people in uniform but more "eyes on the street." <br /> <br />Mr. Torrey asked if prevention and youth programs were addressed in another goal. Mr. Kelly said <br />yes. He said that, if after school was an important time to reduce crime by juveniles, what did the <br />council propose to do to address it. Mr. Kelly referred Mr. Torrey to the action plan priority calling <br />for the development and implementation of a comprehensive youth program in coordination with <br />other agencies. The action was listed under the category "Safe Community." <br /> <br />Mr. Johnson said that the police did not separate the social service or youth activities from <br />community policing, and given that PSCC was unlikely to include funding for prevention programs, <br />did that mean the council needed to consider funding for such programs in any money measure it <br />put before the voters. <br /> <br />Mr. Torrey noted his concern about the lack of prevention funding and youth programs in the <br />PSCC recommendation. He had been frustrated because Eugene residents had clearly supported <br />those elements of the past levy related to prevention. He believed there would be major <br />differences between what the PSCC would propose and what the council would want. At some <br />point in time, the council might have to state that there were certain elements a money measure <br />must have, or Eugene would seek funding for its own measure. <br /> <br />Mr. Lee expressed concern that the conversation the council was having was so different from the <br />discussions the PSCC members were having. He said that the two groups were in two camps <br />with different visions. The PSCC was looking at community policing on a more system-wide level, <br />and the council was talking about community policing at the neighborhood level. Mr. Lee said that <br />for him to represent the council adequately, it may need to make a decision soon. He said he <br />wanted the council to have information from the PSCC to give it more context for its decision <br />making. <br /> <br />Mr. Meisner said that the council needed a matrix of data illustrating service gaps to make a <br />decision about what to put on a ballot or about how to evaluate the PSCC measure. He called for <br />a comprehensive and coordinated approach, saying he would not support an ad hoc, piecemeal <br />approach. Mr. Kelly concurred, saying that if such an approach took more time, he supported <br />that. <br /> <br />Mr. Kelly noted his concurrence with the mayor's remarks related to the basis of Eugene's support <br />for the previous levy, saying a shift to a focus on system structural capacity issues only could <br />cause the measure to fail again, this time because Eugene voters opposed it. He urged the <br />council's representatives to the PSCC to remind the PSCC that Eugene felt strongly that public <br />safety was a continuum of services. <br /> <br /> MINUTES--Eugene City Council May 26, 1999 Page 10 <br /> 5:30 p.m. <br /> <br /> <br />