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facility. He said that it was an industry assumption that facilities such as the Cuthbert would make money <br />from ancillary revenues, such as food concessions and parking. The cost of bringing in artists was so <br />expensive that promoters do not want to share the gate. <br /> <br />Ms. Taylor suggested that the City would make more in beverage concessions because people with picnics <br />would come earlier and possibly drink more beverages. She believed that publicity about the council's <br />decision would reach those who had already purchased tickets. <br /> <br />Mr. Johnson said that one of the implications of the motion was that there would be a need for more staffto <br />move people through the lines and cut down on waiting times, a cost was which was generally passed on to the <br />promoters. <br />Ms. Nathanson was uncomfortable changing the policy at this point because it represented "a change in the <br />rules in the middle of the game" and because of contract issues involved. Mr. Scheeland noted that the City's <br />Request for Proposal for vendors had expressly stated that no picnics were to be allowed. Ms. Nathanson <br />expressed concern about that fact. She suggested that it was most appropriate to refer the issue to the <br />department advisory committee before making the change. Ms. Nathanson added that she understood that <br />there was also an issue of capacity as people spread their picnics out, reducing the number of people who could <br />attend an event. <br /> <br />Mr. Johnson said that the City could give 30-day notice about the change in policy to the vendors, adding it <br />was less a legal problem than a relationship problem. Ms. Niles added that many of the issues related to the <br />Cuthbert were about relationships. City staff worked hard to develop relationships with the promoters, most <br />of whom were from outside the area. The commercial promoters bring talent to the facility to make money. <br />Increasing the capacity of the facility allowed the promoters to generate more revenue. Ms. Niles said that <br />from her years of observation, she learned that people carrying in food took up a significant amount of space in <br />the facility. There was also a conflict at the gates from resolving what constituted a glass container: was it a <br />mayonnaise j ar? A jelly j ar? She said that it could become unpleasant. She believed that precluding picnics <br />led to more smooth operations the previous year. Ms. Niles said there had been no unfavorable comments <br />from promoters and she had heard only two comments from patrons concerning the policy change this year. <br /> <br />Ms. Nathanson said that the amphitheater felt like a local facility to her, and she was glad it was not highly <br />commercialized. She said that at that level, it felt right to allow picnics. On the other hand, the City had tried <br />hard to make the facility a successful venue from a financial point of view, and she asked how the facility <br />could be made to be financially successful yet still feel like the community's amphitheater. <br /> <br />Mr. Kelly said that it was true the City operated in a fiscal environment and needed to balance the budget. He <br />looked to the department advisory committee for innovative ideas to address the facility's financial status in <br />the long-term However, he believed the Cuthbert Amphitheater was about fulfilling the council's goal for an <br />accessible and thriving culture. He believed the Cuthbert was an experience, and part of that experience was <br />the patron's ability to carry in food. Mr. Kelly said that the lines were a challenge but he believed the issue <br />could be resolved. Regarding the contract issue, he said he was satisfied by Mr. Johnson's statement regarding <br />the 3 O-day notice to vendors. <br /> <br />Mr. Meisner was not persuaded by the arguments against the motion. He acknowledged Ms. Niles' comments <br />about relationships but pointed out that the City also had a relationship with its citizens. <br /> <br /> The motion passed unanimously, 6:0. <br /> <br /> MINUTES--Eugene City Council June 14, 1999 Page 9 <br /> 5:30 p.m. <br /> <br /> <br />