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Ms. Taylor asked if it was numbers of people rather than alcohol consumption causing the <br />problem, suggesting that limiting numbers in attendance might be part of the solution. She <br />suggested that the Fire Department could respond first in the case of a large crowd. Ms. Taylor <br />asked if the police presence exacerbated the situation on occasion. <br /> <br />Mr. Torrey indicated staff would provide written responses if needed to the council's questions. <br /> <br />Mr. Pap~ asked where the money collected as a result of the ordinance would be directed. City <br />Attorney Glenn Klein said that it would go to the General Fund. Mr. Pap~ expressed a preference <br />that the money collected go to support police activities in the neighborhood an incident occurred, <br />although he acknowledged it was unlikely the City could get that specific. <br /> <br />Responding to a question from Mr. Pap~, Alex Lehman of the City Attorney's Office reported that <br />Berkeley had an ordinance directed at loud and unruly parties and cited all parties: the owner, the <br />tenant, the person in charge, the party host, etc. Corvallis' ordinance was specific to the violator. <br /> <br />Mr. Pap~ indicated he shared Mr. Fart's concerns about the liability of the landlord. <br /> <br />Mr. Meisner was interested in both enforcement and prevention. He wanted to recover the costs <br />of police response. He was unsure, however, that it was appropriate to send the landlord a notice <br />after the second event. He wanted accountability on the part of those offending. If the landlord <br />did nothing after being notified of the situation, then it was appropriate to hold that individual <br />liable. Noting his interest in neighborhood viability, Mr. Meisner suggested that the ordinance be <br />broadened to include drug houses as he was interested in a cost recovery ordinance that covered <br />situations other than loud parties. <br /> <br />Mr. Torrey asked how the City could address a commercial operation that required multiple <br />responses. <br /> <br />Ms. Nathanson believed there was a need for abatement for the situations described by the police <br />and noted her previous request for ordinance changes or changes to State legislation that would <br />allow the City to take action. She believed that the ordinance could be broadened to cover even <br />more than envisioned currently. <br /> <br />Ms. Nathanson asked if the focus of the ordinance was on cost recovery, deterrence, or <br />punishment. She said that the ordinance did not seem to address the issue of deterrence, and if <br />the focus was on punishment, it appeared to punish the wrong person. She said the ordinance <br />did appear to address cost recovery. Ms. Nathanson said that she would like to see her concerns <br />about the ordinance's inadequacies regarding deterrence and punishment addressed. She <br />believed that the ordinance made it difficult for a landlord to comply with both State and local law <br />given the State laws regarding the timing of eviction. Ms. Nathanson said that the ordinance <br />could result in the eviction of people not responsible for the violations, such as roommates who <br />were not responsible, because of what the landlord believed was required of him/her to address <br />local ordinances. She wanted the City to do something, but she did not think the ordinance was <br />the right approach. <br /> <br /> MINUTES--Eugene City Council November 10, 1999 Page 7 <br /> 5:30 p.m. <br /> <br /> <br />