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Mr. Meisner expressed concern about paring the proposal down too much and focusing on long- <br />range outcomes, therefore somehow not meeting the public's expectations of public safety. He <br />favored asking voters about the outcomes they desired and paying attention to the shod-term. <br />He urged a reasonable, comprehensive approach. <br /> <br />Ms. Swanson Gribskov said that capacity addressed some of Mr. Meisner's concerns. She said <br />the proposal needed the support of not just the PSCC and the County, but both cities as well. <br />Mr. Meisner responded that the other stakeholders were the people who are protected by the <br />public safety system and he wanted to hear from them and "honor their expectations." <br /> <br />Mr. Tollenaar said the lack of media coverage about what the PSCC had been doing for two <br />years was a major problem for the council's interest in effective citizen input. He added that <br />despite the diversity on the PSCC, there was a strong consensus on capacity. The realistic <br />threat of being thrown in jail, he said, served as a deterrent. <br /> <br />Mr. Johnson reminded the council that the subject under discussion was a County bond <br />measure, and not all of the cities' needs have been accommodated through that package. He <br />said staff may have recommendations for prevention programs more closely related to the City's <br />needs. <br /> <br />Mayor Torrey said he had been frustrated with the gap in programs for kids from birth to first <br />grade. He noted that support for homelessness services will likely not make the cut, adding that <br />just because the City has a benevolent community it should not assume responsibility for funding <br />services for that population alone. <br /> <br />Mr. Laue said increasing capacity on a significant level required demonstrable outcomes in terms <br />of failure-to-appear and matrix-release rates. He asked for crime analysis as well to "be able to <br />sell the levy." He ascertained that "double bunking" was not employed at the jail facility and <br />asked for information about what happened to the idea. <br /> <br />Ms. Nathanson shared insights from citizens over the last two years and said she believed the <br />public would be willing to pay for a system that "really" was working. She expressed concern that <br />an integrated approach to a metropolitan system was not yet evident, appearing more like "the <br />big list" of needs and ideas about how to pay for them. On the other hand, the plan outlined by <br />staff for Eugene was "excellent." <br /> <br />Mr. Tollenaar called Ms. Nathanson's comments astute and explained that the PSCC was "not <br />there yet." He said he would continue to work on presenting the public with a pared-down <br />proposal, as well as keep working on a well-documented, well-researched criminal justice plan <br />that meets everyone's expectation. <br /> <br />Ms. Swanson Gribskov called the process modest steps of what is intended to be a <br />comprehensive approach. <br /> <br />Mr. Meisner said he wanted a comprehensive system that works and he would not be able to go <br />to the voters piecemeal. <br /> <br />Mr. Fart expressed disappointment that he did not hear much support for prevention, and he was <br />"tired of pumping money into responses and incarceration." He asked the PSCC to give strong <br />consideration to prevention. <br /> <br />MINUTES--Eugene City Council April 20, 1998 Page 2 <br />5:30 p.m. <br /> <br /> <br />