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Mayor Piercy asked what it would take to “get people to a place where they had something they could agree <br />on.” She asked if they should have another meeting. <br /> <br />Ms. Bettman opined that tie votes were a “reality in the community.” She asserted that the community had <br />divergent opinions, but a majority had supported the charter amendment. She felt they had taken bold steps <br />and had made progress but now they needed to make updates and refinements to it. She declared that none <br />of the components of her motion were far-reaching. She believed the timeline was adequate as was the <br />notice for the public hearing. She said she had discussed the changes she was proposing “extensively” with <br />the former Police Auditor and Ms. Reynolds, and had received “a little feedback” from the City Manager. <br /> <br />Mr. Clark did not want to characterize the issue as support or lack of support for the Police Auditor’s office. <br />He reiterated that he had been a consistent voice in support of effective oversight and had never voted <br />otherwise. He observed that it was said that “half of the community thought the other half was crazy and <br />they were right.” He wanted to have more voices at the table to go through the points of the motion because <br />he wanted to have buy-in from “many other people.” <br /> <br />Ms. Taylor considered Ms. Bettman’s motion to be routine. She felt it reinforced what the public wanted. <br /> <br />City Attorney Glenn Klein stated that in order to have a public hearing on December 8 the ordinance had to <br />be final by November 21 and the title of the ordinance had to be final by November 19. He said they could <br />have the work session on November 17, but if the council made significant changes it would be difficult for <br />thst <br />them to get an ordinance ready by the 19 and the 21. He added that if they had the public hearing on <br />December 8 and then made significant changes it would be very unlikely that legal counsel would be able to <br />turn the ordinance around so that the council could take action on it on December 10. He underscored that <br />while it seemed like there was a lot of time, because of the charter requirement for a ten-day notice there <br />really was not that much time. He stated that the council would need to give the attorneys and staff final <br />direction by November 17. <br /> <br />Ms. Bettman alleged that she had seen the council make major changes to ordinances after public hearings. <br />She asked Mr. Klein to define ‘significant.’ <br /> <br />Mr. Klein said if there was a lot of time to make the changes to the ordinance it was not a problem. He <br />explained that if they needed to rewrite much of the ordinance between Monday night and Wednesday at <br />noon, the council did not like to receive final ordinance language Wednesday at noon and would want it no <br />later than Tuesday night. He stated that this provided only eight hours to work through any of the issues <br />that could be raised after the public hearing. He did not mean ‘significant’ in the legal sense; he meant <br />‘significant’ as in things that would cause them to do a major rewrite of the ordinance. <br /> <br />Mr. Clark’s amended motion failed, 5:3; Ms. Solomon, Mr. Poling, and Mr. Clark voting in <br />favor. <br /> <br />Mr. Zelenka offered a friendly amendment to add the schedule that they discussed: a work <br />session on November 17 in lieu of the public hearing which currently had no items on the <br />docket, a public hearing on December 8, and action to be taken on December 10. Ms. <br />Bettman accepted the friendly amendment. <br /> <br />Ms. Solomon called this schedule impossible. She said it assumed there would be no changes made after the <br />public hearing on December 8. <br /> <br /> <br /> <br />MINUTES—Eugene City Council November 10, 2008 Page 11 <br /> Work Session <br /> <br />