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? <br /> He thanked the City of Springfield for handling 850 calls annually outside of its ASA, the majority <br />of which were likely in the City of Eugene. <br />? <br /> He agreed with Commissioner Stewart’s suggestion of expanding EMS throughout the county. <br />? <br /> He asked if any of the three chiefs saw tonight’s conversation growing into a conversation to <br />expand into all Fire and EMS services. <br /> <br />Chief Groves said the chiefs had had those discussions and were looking for common points for Eugene and <br />Springfield to come together, including training and the Fire Marshal, to gain efficiencies and improve <br />services, especially during times of tight finances. <br /> <br />Chief Murphy suggested options could be offered to the city councils that would not lead to service <br />reductions or increased fees. <br /> <br />Commissioner Fleenor was for saving lives with available resources but regardless of resources people <br />died. There were a limited amount of resources in Lane County and they were becoming less every day in <br />the current economy. It could be three or four years before improvement is seen. Trying to form a <br />countywide district was “pie in the sky” and it was not reasonable to think the jurisdictions could provide a <br />response time that was appropriate in the rural communities. The issue needed to be looked at from a view <br />of what was reasonable today and not next year. He felt everyone needed to live within available resources. <br />The current fiscal environment was not suitable to talk about expansion. <br /> <br />Councilor Ortiz sought an explanation of the contract for non-emergency transport and for the practice of <br />advising people at the scene what the cost of transport would be. <br /> <br />Chief Groves said advising people at the scene what the cost of transport would be had started with a <br />change in the state law to inform patients. The non-emergency transport contract for the City of Eugene <br />was a cost avoidance model to reduce costs for non-emergency transports from skilled nursing facilities <br />since over 80 percent of the skilled nursing facilities in the area were located in the Eugene ASA which <br />created a lot of transports between the care facilities and the hospitals. Staff was in the process of <br />negotiating a contract with Rural/Metro Ambulance that would help alleviate the call load and free up <br />limited emergency resources. <br /> <br />In response to a question from Councilor Ortiz, Mr. Collins explained calls for Rural/Metro Ambulance <br />service would be routed to a number other than the 9-1-1 system, where they would be dispatched directly <br />from Rural/Metro’s site to the calling agency or individual. <br /> <br />Chief Murphy said the skilled nursing facilities were currently clustered around the SHMC University <br />District but this might change over time with the opening of the SHMC RiverBend campus. Springfield <br />Fire and Life Safety would reevaluate the situation and be prepared to respond to those changes. He <br />supported the decision by Eugene and thought it a smart business decision. <br /> <br />Councilor Taylor did not think a district would work and people would not want it. She asked if the <br />mileage was included in the cost of transport. She asked if universal health care would solve the problem. <br />She asked what happened when people who were not indigent and did not have health insurance did not pay <br />the bill. She asked if a person who did not ask for or want an ambulance but was transported, would be <br />responsible for paying the bill. <br /> <br /> <br />MINUTES—Joint Elected Officials— January 27, 2009 Page 12 <br /> Lane Board of County Commissioners, Lane Rural Fire/Rescue Board of Directors and Eu- <br />gene and Springfield City Councils <br /> <br />