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Robert Horn <br /> introduced himself as an armed private security officer who was licensed <br />to carry firearms. He was also a major stockholder in the manufacture of Tasers, he said. <br />He agreed with the policy as written and recommended that Eugene police officers used <br />Tasers. <br />Robert Roth <br /> said he had worked for the Oregon Department of Justice for fourteen <br />years, now retired, had been admitted to the bar in four states and practiced law for forty <br />years. He had no problem understanding the Taser policy document, but was unsure <br />whether it was either fair or responsible to require police officers to understand its <br />meaning. He remarked that the Attorney General of Maryland had done an extensive <br />study of the use of “electronic control weapons” and concluded that these weapons <br />should be used only when individuals posed an imminent threat of physical injury to <br />themselves or others. He was concerned about the removal of the word “immediate” <br />before the kind of threat that needed to be posed before a Taser could be used. Although <br />Tasers were thought of as less than lethal weapons, he understood that they were actually <br />sometimes lethal, and that it could not be understood in advance which people would die <br />from being shot with a Taser. He said that 350-400 people had died from Taser shootings <br />in the US, and he preferred that Tasers be banned, although he believed that a practical <br />stance was for Tasers to be used only when lethal force was justified. <br />Ruth Duemler <br /> said that she would like to know how often Tasers had been used in <br />Eugene, which she thought was approximately 30 times. She was concerned that Tasers <br />were a deadly force, and she had noticed law suits being filed in Portland and in San Jose <br />regarding excessive force being used. She felt that Tasers needed to be considered as <br />deadly force, and that police officers needed more extensive testing before being allowed <br />to use Tasers, and that not all officers should use them. <br />Randy Prince <br /> commented that he was the chief petitioner for Curb Tasers. He remarked <br />that two assumptions were made in the drafted policy: 1) that Tasers were to be in <br />general use by officers and 2) that their use was to be controlled by internal policies of <br />the Police Department rather than broad governmental laws. He felt that the discussions <br />undergone by the committee were necessary because of not using the simple deadly force <br />guidelines which were well established to limit Taser use and the desire to retain the 90% <br />of Taser uses in which deadly force was not justified. He noted that the UN had declared <br />the use of Tasers to be considered as torture and the ACLU had called for the use of the <br />deadly force guidelines for Tasers. He added that discussion about limiting the use to <br />deadly force situations was outside the scope of this committee’s deliberations. Curb <br />Tasers believed, he said, that Tasers do kill and that certain individuals were more likely <br />to die from Taser use. Officers could not know which individuals were likely to die from <br />Taser use, he argued. He said it was obvious that there was a risk of death with their use <br />because the policy called for the dispatch of emergency medical services in every use of <br />Tasers. The line was fuzzy, he remarked, for determining the appropriateness of the use <br />of Tasers, and would likely be stretched. <br />David Eason <br /> commented that he believed in the use of Tasers as a necessary and positive <br />tool for protecting police officers and the general public. When officers were asked to <br />MINUTES—Eugene Police Commission May 4, 2010 Page 3 <br />Use of Force Committee – Taser Public Forum <br /> <br />