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In response to a question from Mr. Pap6, Mr. Taylor said ARFF services in Billings, Montana were <br />provided by city employees represented by the Teamsters Union. He explained that it was an example of <br />cross-utilization. <br /> <br />Mr. Pap6 opined that safety services would become a regional question, should a regional airport district be <br />formed. <br /> <br />In response to a question from Mr. Pap6, Fire Chief Tom Tallon said to retain the status of an indexed <br />airport, the City had to maintain ARFF services. Should ARFF services be somewhere other than the <br />airport, planes would be instructed to land elsewhere. He stated that firefighters were cross-trained and <br />rotated through ARFF-required fire safety services. <br /> <br />Mr. Pap6 asked if there would be a change in how fire emergencies were handled should ARFF services be <br />privatized. Chief Tallon noted that the City of Medford contracted with a private fire service. <br /> <br />Ms. Nathanson pointed out that Mr. Poling was a retired public safety provider and that she was a long-time <br />union member. She related that she was troubled by the cost comparison of ARFF services to other cities. <br />She asked what the downside of proposing some policies to govern the cost of the service. Mr. Taylor said <br />the City did benchmark and look at best practices. He stated that cross-utilization was the predominant way <br />ARFF services were adequately provided and landed weight costs kept down. <br /> <br />Ms. Nathanson asked why the services had not been made more cost-effective to date. Mr. Taylor <br />responded that the scheduled work session on the item had created a chilling effect on bargaining. <br /> <br />Sharon Rudnick of the City Attorney's Office stated that nothing in State collective bargaining laws <br />prevented the City Council from directing an outcome of a collective bargaining issue. However, she felt <br />concerned about the impact on progress that the policy question created. She said that the collective <br />bargaining process worked because of the necessity for compromise. She suggested that the situation <br />wherein the costs at the airport had been a part of the bargaining for quite a while and one party chose to <br />invoke the political process had fostered an environment in which the party could posture rather than <br />negotiate. Ms. Rudnick said the outcome of this was no longer dependent on the good faith participation in <br />the process or the bad things that could happen if an agreement was not reached. She believed the timing of <br />this discussion would create an impact on the ability of the City to manage its collective bargaining <br />processes. <br /> <br />Ms. Nathanson agreed that, in general, critical public safety jobs should be performed by public employees. <br />She opposed having this discussion while the collective bargaining process was underway. She interpreted <br />the City Charter to direct such discussion to be held in executive session only. <br /> <br />Ms. Taylor supported the amendment. She supported directing the City Manager not to privatize services. <br />She disagreed that this was a charter matter, stating that whether or not a City service should be privatized <br />was a policy matter and was subject to the authority of the City Council. <br /> <br />Ms. Solomon asked if the attorney had seen the amended motion. She opined that the amendment did not <br />seem to be an improvement as it still neutralized the City Manager. She was compelled by the figures <br />provided by Mr. Corey, stating that the City was clearly %ut of synch" with other cities. <br /> <br />MINUTES--Eugene City Council June 23, 2004 Page 3 <br /> Work Session <br /> <br /> <br />