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unusual circumstances, for example, evidence of fraud by top management." She said that much of the <br />information the council received from the committee was conflicting. <br /> <br />Ms. Nathanson asked how many people worked in the Portland city auditor's office. Mr. Carlson <br />believed there were a total of 56 people working in the Portland auditor's office. <br /> <br />Ms. Nathanson said she heard no clarity in the discussion about the nature of the position envisioned. It <br />was unclear if councilors were talking about a performance auditor or a financial auditor. She believed <br />the public wanted to know there was no fraud in municipal operations, and there were financial audits <br />to ensure that happened. <br /> <br />Ms. Nathanson believed that the organizational credibility of the organization relied in part on the <br />credibility of the council, and how well it managed the City's affairs. She asked how Mr. Carlson <br />would characterize the auditor role authorized through the fiscal year 2003 budget. Mr. Carlson <br />characterized it as an independent audit performed under contract by an independent auditor. Ms. <br />Nathanson thought such an independent audit would serve as well in terms of expertise and <br />independence. She said she had too many questions to support a solution when the problem was not yet <br />adequately described. <br /> <br />Mr. Rayor, seconded by Mr. Pap~, moved to amend the motion with the following substitute text: "The <br />City Manager shall appoint a City performance auditor, subject to confirmation by the City Council. <br />The performance auditor shall conduct or cause to be conducted performance audits and may conduct <br />studies intended to measure or improve the performance of City functions. The performance auditor <br />shall regularly report the results of their work, as well as the annual performance work plan to an audit <br />committee consisting of the Budget Committee or a subcommittee of the Budget Committee." <br /> <br />Mr. Kelly solicited comments on the amendment to the motion. <br /> <br />Speaking in support of his amendment, Mr. Rayor said it created a new city auditor position subject to <br />confirmation by the manager. He did not want to create a new committee through the charter that could <br />not be maintained because of funding or one that represented a duplication of efforts. <br /> <br />Mr. Farr preferred Mr. Rayor's motion over the previous motion, but still questioned the need for a <br />performance auditor. He agreed with Ms. Nathanson's statement about the City's ability to hire <br />independent expertise. He thought it would be irresponsible, given the economic difficulties facing the <br />City, to refer such a position to the ballot. <br /> <br />Ms. Bettman considered council resistance to the concept of an internal independent auditor to be <br />"astounding." She said that such an auditor would assist the council in its evaluation of the manager, <br />and would help inform budget policy. She said that without council oversight, the motion on the floor <br />was just a wordier version of the manager's proposal. She termed it "auditing under the influence of the <br />supervisory chain," and pointed out that it was the supervisory chain of which the council wanted <br />independent evaluation. <br /> <br />Ms. Bettman did not think the focus of the discussion was on financial malfeasance but rather on <br />overcoming the personal and professional alliances that existed among staff that make it impossible for <br />staff to move beyond those alliances. An independent auditor could look objectively at the <br />organization and provide the manager with an outside recommendation. She said that the City had <br /> <br /> <br />