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who called for the development of a master plan to illustrate to the public what it was purchasing. She <br />agreed with the remarks of Mr. Meisner regarding ways to offset the cost through the sale of assets and <br />bonding against leases. That made the project more fiscally responsible and acceptable to the community. <br /> <br />Ms. Bettman thought the project needed to be the City's police headquarters and City Hall. She thought it <br />important to preserve the identity of the municipality. She said if the City was to build the center it had to <br />be a City facility, although it may contain additional capacity that could be rented to other jurisdictions until <br />needed. She thought the City needed to distinguish between public and private space and to place people- <br />intensive uses instead of storage, for example, in downtown. <br /> <br />Ms. Taylor thought the council should first discover if the public wanted new buildings. She did not think <br />that had been determined. She said that there were many people who thought the existing city hall could be <br />retrofitted and retained, but that idea seemed to have been dropped. She wanted to know how much space <br />the building could accommodate when the police and fire staff were relocated to other facilities. She agreed <br />with Ms. Bettman about people-intensive uses downtown. <br /> <br />Ms. Taylor said the City Council should not consider putting a police station bond measure on the ballot <br />unless it was sure it would succeed. She said the council needed to consider whether the time was right. <br /> <br />Mayor Torrey said he would like to see a matrix of projects the City had done over the last five years <br />showing the impact of interest rates on the bond. He said that now was a favorable financial time to <br />construct a building because of low interest rates, and the council should consider taking advantage of that <br />in face of the needs that existed. <br /> <br />Mayor Torrey said that no one had taken the current building off the list of options. He wanted to know if <br />the building was strong enough to sustain multi-story development on the north edge. He liked a concept he <br />had heard at the design forum regarding possible modifications that could be made to the building. <br /> <br />Speaking to Mr. Papa's comments, Mayor Torrey pointed out his suggestion about the 20-year dollar <br />arrangement included a lease-back, and the money that supported the lease would come out of the General <br />Fund; he questioned how the City would pay for that. He acknowledged that cities do take that approach, <br />but it then became an operating cost for those who use the facilities. <br /> <br />Ms. Nathanson thought there were internal and organizational efficiencies to be gained from a new civic <br />center. She raised the question of what services were located in a civic center downtown, where the land <br />values and construction costs were high. While she agreed with the goal of consolidating services to the <br />extent possible, Ms. Nathanson suggested that some services did not need to be downtown because their <br />presence did not contribute to organizational efficiency or were unnecessary in downtown. She anticipated <br />the City would continue to have several buildings and not all services would be housed in one place. <br /> <br />Ms. Nathanson asked if the City had ever employed a combined general obligation/revenue bond approach <br />to fund a project. Ms. Cutsogeorge said yes, in the case of the airport. She said more than one kind of bond <br />could be used, and confirmed, in response to a question from Ms. Nathanson, that staff was developing such <br />scenarios. <br /> <br />Ms. Bettman looked forward to seeing the ~framework of facts" Mr. Carlson had promised the advisory <br />committee. She was also interested in seeing a project time line. <br /> <br />MINUTES--Eugene City Council April 28, 2004 Page 3 <br /> Work Session <br /> <br /> <br />