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Eugene City Council/Downtown Commission
DinnerlWork Session
Eugene Conference Center, Wilder Room
February 11,1985
5 p.m.
COUNCILORS PRESENT: Cynthia Wooten, Emily Schue, Richard Hansen, Freeman
Holmer, Debra Ehrman, Ruth Bascom, Roger Rutan, Jeffrey
Miller.
DOWNTOWN COMMISSIONERS PRESENT: Michael Schwartz, Stephanie Pearl,
Anne Bennett, Mary Young, Roger Neustadter, James McCoy
(5:35-7:15), A. Dean Owens (6:00-7:15), Thomas H. Schott
(5:55-7:15).
The meeting of the Eugene City Council and the Eugene Downtown Commission was
called to order by the Honorable Brian B. Obie. He said some Downtown Com-
missioners had not arrived yet because they had been told the meeting was
scheduled for 6 p.m.
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I. PROPOSED TIMELINE FOR RECONSTRUCTION OF WILLAMETTE STREET FROM 10TH TO
11 TH AVENUES
City Manager Micheal Gleason introduced the item. Pat Lynch of the Develop-
ment Department reviewed the proposed time schedule for the opening of Wil-
lamette Street from lOth to 11th avenues. He said the opening was approved
when the council adopted the Downtown Plan. A staff task force is developing
the design and will present a proposal to the Downtown Commission in late
February. The proposal will be referred to other affected groups and con-
struction is expected to begin in the summer.
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Answering questions from Councilor Ehrman, Mr. Lynch said the City will
advertise and contract for the removal of the cover. It is expected to take
only a few days to actually remove. Ms. Ehrman pointed out the design of the
Park Willamette building was changed after council approval.
Responding to a question from Councilor Rutan, Mr. Lynch said the project
which will convert Willamette Street from 11th to 20th avenues to two-way
traffic is separate from the opening of Willamette Street from 10th to 11th
avenues in the Capital Improvement Program (CIP). The conversion project is
scheduled to be done in three years. The council could move the conversion
project ahead. Tax increment funds cannot be used for the conversion pro-
ject. Answering a question from Mr. Holmer, Mr. Lynch said the conversion
could cost between $10,000 for a temporary change to $100,00 for permanent
improvements.
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Ms. Schue pointed out that a study of the impacts on intersections of the
conversion should be done before the council considers the conversion.
Answering a question from Mr. Holmer, Mr. Lynch said the preliminary report
from the task force on the opening of Willamette Street and the design alter-
natives could be sent to councilors.
Responding to a question from Councilor Wooten, Mr. Lynch said councilors may
comment on the proposed design of Willamette Street to downtown commissioners
or to staff at any time. The project will cost about $400,000. Ms. Wooten
was concerned about the misunderstanding in the community regarding the
source of the funds for the project, noting that the general fund will not be
used.
Replying to a question from Ms. Bennett, Mr. Gleason said the CIP is a recom-
mendation about capital projects to the Budget Committee. The council will
act on the CIP in late February. A final decision on the budget is made in
July.
II. DOWNTOWN RETAIL DEVELOPMENT
Mr. Schwartz reviewed the history of downtown retail development projects.
He said the Downtown Commission had been working on the proposed Price Devel-
opment project for approximately two years. He introduced Lloyd LeBlanc, the
City's economic planning consultant on the project, who had submitted a
report titled "Markets & Services in Downtown Eugene" in October 1984.
Mr. LeBlanc reviewed his background, experience, and qualifications. He had
been asked to help define the potential for downtown if the 1976 policy to
increase downtown retail development and vitality was purusued. He noted
that retail potential could be between $50 million and $80 million and
between 3,500 and 5,500 new office employees in the next ten years if the
Eugene downtown received the same share of Lane County business it received
in the last ten years. He said the important things to consider in assessing
a development proposal are: Does it fit? Does it have market support?
And: What does the community have to do?
Mr. LeBlanc said the proposal from Price Development Company is reasonable.
The preliminary evaluation was carefully done and will undoubtedly be modi-
fied further, but it is worth pursuing. When a development agreement is
signed, the proposal will be more serious. The Downtown Plan will provide
guidance in evaluating the development proposal. Mr. LeBlanc hoped the City
would get ahead of the process, so the community can respond rapidly to the
proposal. The developers will want the City to provide parking improve-
ments. The development will substantially affect the activity level in the
downtown.
Answering a question from Councilor Hansen, Mr. LeBlanc said his forecasts
were based on statistics from L-COG and other local agencies. They assume
the downtown will maintain its share of growth. The downtown has suffered
from the perception that it is more costly andlor difficult to locate down-
town. The Downtown Plan, the resolution of the parking issue, actions of the
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council and Downtown Commission in providing a framework for additional
growth, and a new long-range financial plan will provide a framework to
accommodate growth and improve the conditions that have existed for the last
ten years.
Replying to a question from Mr. Holmer, Mr. LeBlanc said the requirement for
letters of commitment in the preliminary development agreement was prema-
ture. The commitment of retailers will become more evident in the next 90
days.
Mayor Obie welcomed Mary Young to the Downtown Commission. Commissioners and
councilors introduced themselves.
Mr. Schwartz, chair of the Downtown Commission, noted that the commission had
reviewed the conceptual design of the redevelopment. At Mayor Obie's
request, Ron Sanetel, a consultant to the development staff, reviewed the
site plan using several illustrations. The area is bounded by 8th Avenue on
the north, 10th Avenue on the south, Charne1ton Street on the west, and Wi1-
lamette on the east. The boundaries, however, are not fixed. There will be
at least three, and maybe four, anchor stores. The focus of the development
will be a central plaza. There may also be public areas for such things as
the Saturday Market. All the buildings are proposed to have two stories.
There will be parking below the entire development. Additional parking
structures around the development will be needed. The project will intensify
development in that part of Eugene.
Ms. Ehrman wondered if additional parking structures around the development
would be excessive. She emphasized the proximity of bus facilities.
Mr. Sanetel said the prospective tenants require additional parking. It will
probably become an issue because the additional structures will have to be
provided by the City. Mr. Gleason pointed out that retailers make their
profit during a few specific periods. The ability to park many cars during
those periods is critical.
Mayor Obie wondered if the impact of the structures on the surrounding neigh-
borhoods could be mitigated architecturally.
Responding to a question from Ms. Wooten, Mr. Sanetel said the developers
will try to keep Broadway open and make it seem to be a major, urban street.
Whether or not Wi1lamette is open is not important to the project.
Ms. Wooten was concerned about a climate-controlled area of the project and
about the area to be demolished. Mr. Sanete1 said the proposal included an
area to be covered. About three blocks would be demolished and rebuilt.
Elaine Stewart of the Development Department said 25 or 30 businesses will be
affected. Some will go into the new development and the City will help
others relocate.
Mr. Holmer wondered if the cost of keeping Broadway open to general traffic
and the cost of the central plaza are matters to be negotiated by the City
and the developer or if any involvement of the City is preliminary and exter-
nal to the development. Mr. LeBlanc said the City might have to develop the
central plaza.
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Mr. Obie asked if the City will have to pay for a central plaza if the City
wants a central plaza. Mr. Sanete1 said the matter had not been resolved.
Mr. Schwartz said members of the subcommittee felt strongly that there should ~
be a public square for such things as the Eugene Celebration and another pub-
lic space for such things as the Saturday Market. Both areas will be the
City's responsibility to maintain and manage.
Mr. Neustadter emphasized that the cost of the public spaces will be paid by
the owners of small businesses if it is not paid by the City. The design of
the project will determine the mix of merchants, and the greater the costs
the greater the chance that businesses there now will have to move else-
where.
Mr. Miller pointed out that merchants in other parts of the mall might want
the same amenities provided in the new development. Mr. LeBlanc suggested
the council consider the impacts of the development on other parts of the
mall because there is no guarantee the impacts will be fair. Mr. Schwartz
said a good mall development will help surrounding businesses. Ms. Ehrman
pointed out the project will take most of the mall. Mr. Obie said the peri-
meter of the development will provide a different opportunity if traffic is
increased and the new development is designed so that traffic must go by the
perimeter locations.
Replying to an inquiry from Ms. Wooten, Mr. Gleason described the results of
similar developments in other cities. Ms. Bennett said downtown developments
are evolving. Role models are difficult to find. Retail developments can
provide a base to enhance office employment in the area.
Mr. Owens said some developments complement the surrounding areas and some
developments create ghettos in the surrounding area. Visual and physical
barriers that impede the traffic flow from the development to the surrounding
area will have an impact on the surrounding area. The developer will want
people to stay within the development.
Mr. Neustadter emphasized the importance of maintaining a schedule for the
development. Retailers will not make changes until they know what the City
and the developer are going to do. Nothing will change downtown until deci-
sions about the proposed development are made.
Replying to questions from Mr. Rutan, Mr. Schwartz said the developer could
pullout of the project at any time. Ms. Stewart said the developer will
lose the deposit only if the developer does not do such required things as
the analysis and the conceptual plan.
Ms. Ehrman asked about the proposed tenants. Ms. Stewart said the developer
will not publicize the names of prospective tenants until a binding commit-
ment has been made. The council will approve a preliminary agreement, a
revised site plan, a revised concept plan in April, and a financing package
in July. The urban renewal plan must be revised by the council to accom-
modate the development. When the council approves the development agreement,
the project will no longer be a conceptual one.
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Mr. Holmer pointed out that the City must define the cost of the necessary
public improvements between now and August. He wondered how decisions about
such things as the amount of parking, public space, and climate control will
be made. He was worried about what part the council will have in the negoti-
ations.
Aswering a question from Ms. Ehrman, Mr. Schwartz said recommendations from
subcommittees will be approved by the full Downtown Commission.
Mr. Miller pointed out that the council had been shown a concept only. The
project might not be developed or the site might change.
Responding to a question from Ms. Wooten, Mr. Schwartz said Price Development
Company is headquartered in Salt lake City and manages developments in Utah,
Idaho, Nevada, Wyoming, and Oregon. Mr. Neustadter said it is the fiftieth
largest development company in the country. Mr. Gleason said the profit for
a development company comes from the sales in the development. Therefore,
the mass of the development is very important. Mr. Neustadter said the major
stores in a development do not put up any money. They create the traffic.
The costs are paid by operators of small businesses.
Mr. Obie told the Downtown Commission, liThe ball is in your court. II The
prospects are exciting.
Mr. Schwartz said the Downtown Commission will try to keep the project moving
on schedule. There is good rapport with the staff.
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