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M I NUT E S
Lane County Board of Commissioners
Springfield City Council
Eugene City Council
Joint Public Hearing
Harri sHall
May 22, 1985
7:30 p.m.
PRESENT: Peter DeFazio, Bill Rogers, Jerry Rust, John Ball, Chuck Ivey, Lane
County Commissioners; Chris Larson, Dick Gassman, Fred Simmons,
Springfield City Council; Cynthia Wooten, Richard Hansen, Emily
Schue, Ruth Bascom, Debra Ehrman, Jeff Miller, Roger Rutan, Eugene
City Council; Eugene Mayor Brian Obie.
Mr. Gassman called the meeting to order in his capacity as chairperson of the
Metropolitan Policy Committee (MPC).
Mr. DeFazio called the Lane County Board of Commissioners to order. He read
the ordinances which would be considered.
Mayor Brian B. Obie called the meeting of the City Council of the City of
Eugene, Oregon, to order.
Ms. larson said the Springfield City Charter does not permit the City Council
to convene and deliberate outside the city limits; therefore, the Springfield
City Council members were present to receive information only.
I. INTRODUCTION OF ELECTED OFFICIALS
The Lane County Commissioners, the Eugene City Councilors, and the Springfield
City Councilors introduced themselves.
II. OPENING REMARKS BY CHAIRPERSON
Mr. Gassman said the goal of the joint meeting was to hear testimony and
informally reach a consensus on unresolved issues so that the entire Metro-
politan Area General Plan will receive acknowledgement from the Land Conser-
vation and Development Commission (LCDC). He said the area is under a
continuance order from the LCDC to resolve the issues. Failure to resolve the
issues could result in LCDC sanctions.
Mr. Gassman said the Metropolitan Area Plan Advisory Committee (MAPAC)
reviewed the material sent to the elected officials and MPC and the planning
commissions of each of the jurisdictions forwarded recommendations to the
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elected officials. The Lane County Planning Commission's recommendation on
the Pudding Creek Heronry is the only recommendation which did not agree with
the MPC recommendation.
Mr. Gassman reviewed the format which would be followed during the hearing.
III. STAFF PRESENTATION
Steve Gordons l-COG Division Manager of Planning and Community Development,
reviewed the recommendations on issues concerning Statewide Goal 5. He said
the natural resource designation was recommended for the Confluence Island
Heronry. An amendment to the Metro Plan would prohibit sand and gravel opera-
tions during the nesting season near the heronry. The MPC and the Eugene and
Springfield Planning Commissions recommended a policy approach and conditions
to a sand and gravel operational permit which would prohibit the removal of
vegetation within 400 feet of the Pudding Creek Heronry and prohibit sand and
gravel operations during the nesting season. The lane County Planning Commis-
sion recommended a natural resource designation for the Pudding Creek Heronry
and a Metro Plan amendment which would prohibit sand and gravel operations
during the nesting season. The MPC and the planning commissions recommended a
natural resource designation and development of a management plan for six
acres in the Russel Creek Basin to protect the Microcala quadrangularis
(Timwort) pl ant.
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Jim Mann, Lane County Planning Department, reviewed the recommendations for
the Mahlon Sweet Field "exception" area. An agricultural designation and
rezoning to exclusive farm use (EFU) with a commercial airport safety (CAS)
overlay zone is recommended for the 280-acre Drake and Kokkeler properties.
The overlay zone will restrict many of the non-farm uses which are permitted
in the EFU zone.
Discussing the rezoning of specific Lane County land parcels, Mr. Mann said
the recommendation is to amend the exception to include two tax lots and
rezone them from EFU to rural residential. A change in zone from EFU to park
and recreation for part of Armitage State Park is recommended. A change in a
map to indicate the Willamette Greenway Boundary is recommended. An amendment
to the Forest Lands Working Paper and the addition of several policies is
recommended. Two changes to the description of the airport area are also
recoJTl1lended.
Answering questions from Ms. Wooten, Susan Brody, Eugene Planning Director,
said the CAS zone on the Drake and Kokkeler properties will restrict uses such
as the height of structures which might interfere with the operation of the
airport. The uses allowed in the lane County EFU zone will be permitted on
the properti es.
IV. PUBLIC HEARING
Mr. Gassman opened the public hearing.
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A. Confluence Island Heronry Working Paper and Plan Amendments
David Harmonmi11er, 1234 M Street, Springfield, liked the naturalness of
Oregon and is sorry it is being chipped away. He said the heronry is an asset.
Barbara Kelley, 540 Kingswood, Eugene, read a poem about the value of herons.
She presented it in written form along with a picture of a heron to the
elected officials. Answering a question from her, Mr. Gordon said a vege-
tative fringe around the heronries will be preserved all year and sand and
gravel operations will be restricted within 1,000 feet of the heronry during
the nesting season.
Bob Moulton, 180 East 11th, Eugene, represented Delta Sand and Gravel Company
which owns most of the Confluence Island. He urged approval of the recommen-
dation. He said the buffer is larger than 400 feet to the north and west of
the heronry. He said the land on the Confluence Island is not good for
agricultural use.
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Answering a question from Ms. Ehrman, Mr. Moulton said his client is happy
with the recommended designation for the Confluence Island. His client had
concluded that the recommendation for the Pudding Creek Heronry provides
appropriate protection for the herons and is more flexible than the natural
resource (NR) designation which is recommended for the Confluence Island.
Therefore, his client indicated to the MPC that the method of protecting the
Pudding Creek Heronry may be requested for the Confluence Island in the
future. Mr. Moulton emphasized that the Babb family which owns Delta Sand and
Gravel have always planned to protect the heronry.
Allen Dale Babb, 695 Fair Oaks Drive, said he was available to answer ques-
tions.
B. Heronries in General
Gwynne Schultz, P.O. Box 5086, represented the lane County Audubon Society.
She sa1d the society has been concerned with the protection of heron rookeries
because there has been a decline in the number of Great Blue Herons in the.
Willamette Valley because of a decrease in their habitat. She recommended the
NR designation for the Pudding Creek Heronry and said it is important to
protect all natural areas in the same way.
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Ms. Schultz said changes in the regulations can be made by a land owner easier
if an operational plan is adopted than if the NR designation is applied. She
wondered what degree of public involvement there would be if an administrative
change is made in the operational plan. She also wondered if the Sand and
Gravel Review Committee could modify the operational plan.
Ms. Schultz was concerned about the three-year abandonment clause for the
Pudding Creek Heronry. She said herons are very easily flushed away from a
nesting site. It would be hard to prove the rookery had not been abandoned if
the birds were frightened away three years in a row. She emphasized the need
for suitable habitat for the herons. She wondered what kind of public
involvement there will be if the Fish and Wildlife Department investigates the
possibility of abandonment.
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Jim Greer, 3150 East Main, Springfield, represented the Oregon Fish and
Wildlife Department. He agreed with the recommendations for the Confluence
Island Heronry. He said herons sometimes return to an abandoned heronry. He
recommended a condition that would begin the three-year period over again for
the ,Pudding Creek Heronry if the herons returned within the three-year period
when abandonment is being considered.
Mr. Rust said that Confluence Island has the largest number of cottonwood
trees and the largest rookery in the Willamette system. He wondered if the
Fish and Wildlife Department was concerned about it. Mr. Greer said the
department is reviewing all the heron rookery habitats in the Willamette
system. The Confluence Island site might be considered valuable even if it is
abandoned.
Answering other questions, Mr. Greer said he assumed there would be very
little activity near the rookeries. The herons should be there for a long
time. The Fi sh and Wil d1 i fe Department will have to "get its act together" if
the herons abandon a rookery next year. The Fish and Wildlife Department
recommended the NR designation for both the Confluence Island and Pudding
Creek heronries when the protection process began. Department representatives
felt three years is an adequate period to evaluate an abandonment.
Mr. Ball asked why the Fish and Wildlife Department had changed its recom-
mendation for the Pudding Creek Heronry from NR to sand and gravel with a
management plan. Mr. Greer replied that originally the department's concern
had been for all wildlife habitat. Cottonwood habitats have been declining,
but they can be replaced by simply letting them grow back. The department is
now focusing on the heronry and that is why it agrees with the L-COG recommen-
dation. The completion of an inventory of the Willamette system is important,
but Mr. Greer did not know if it is a priority in the department's budget. He
would give the names of people active in the Department of Fish and Wildlife
budgeting process to Mr. Ball.
Responding to a question from Mr. Obie, Mr. Greer said heron rookery habitats
in Lane County have improved. The planning process has forced the improve-
ment. There are some small, fragmented rookeries in conifers and softwoods.
Many are in timber lands. The largest rookeries are on the Wi1lamette River
from Portland to Eugene. Several large heronries on the Wi1lamette River have
been lost in the last five to ten years because of harvesting of the trees.
Herons require fairly large cottonwood trees. The Pudding Creek Heronry has
smaller trees than most of the heronries in the county. The number of herons
in the county has probably been static for the last three or four years. It
declined before that because of the loss of the large heronries on the
Wi1lamette River.
Mr. Ball said the Pudding Creek Heronry had more than 50 active nests in 1980
or 1981 and about 30 active nests in 1984 or 1985.
Answering questions from Mr. Simmons, Mr. Greer said he would prefer the NR
designation for the Pudding Creek Heronry. The buffer exists now. The
department's major concern about the gypsy moth spraying was harrassment of
the herons. The department is monitoring the Great Blue Heron and Osprey
Eagle areas that have been sprayed.
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Richard Shapiro, 1848 Happy Lane, said he sees the herons frequently. He said
there is not enough information to specify exactly the area needed by the
herons. He urged the application of the NR designation. He said clean rivers
and the ability to see birds and other wildlife make Eugene unique. If they
are destroyed, Eugene and Springfield will lose unique qualities.
Shoshanah Thiel1e, P.O. Box 1485, Eugene, said 400 feet is not enough of a
buffer zone for herons. The noise of a sand and gravel truck will drive the
birds away because they are shy. She said the first concern of the sand and
gravel companies is money. She urged protection for the birds.
Michael Horton, 90541 Smith Lane, said the sand and gravel companies are
concerned about business, but they are also concerned about public relations.
He suggested development of the sand and gravel resource be permitted in
stages toward the heronries. If the herons are disturbed and abandon the
site, the sand and gravel extraction should be stopped.
C. Pudding Creek Heronry Working Paper and Plan Amendments
Randall Hledik, P.O. Box 7428, Eugene, represented Wildish Land Company. He
submitted some testimony in writing. He urged support of the recommendation
of the MPC and Eugene and Springfield Planning Commissions. He said the
recommmendation protects the Pudding Creek Heronry. No purposeful removal of
vegetation and no recreation can occur within the 400-foot buffer. There can
be no extraction within the 1 ,OOO-foot buffer in the nesting season. The
recommendation also recognizes the importance of the underlying sand and
gravel, complies with Statewide Goals and Guidelines, adheres to the spirit of
the Goal 5 conflict resolution process, and provides an environment in which
both public and private concerns are addressed.
Mr. H1edik said 50 acres of sand and gravel in Lane County is significant.
A 1984 L-COG inventory of sand and gravel deposits indicated there is only
25 percent more sand and gravel available than will be needed to the year
2000. Twenty-five percent is only a four-year supply. Fifty acres is two to
three years of production for Wi1dish Land Company. Sand and gravel opera-
tions have taken place on the Pudding Creek property for 18 years. The
company simply wants to maintain the use. Sand and gravel is an important
resource.
Mr. Hledik said the Greenway Goal states that uses in effect before December,
1975, should be allowed to continue and seasonal increases in sand and gravel
operations should be allowed. The Wildish Land Company was operating in the
Pudding Creek area before December, 1975. Mr. H1edik emphasized that the
heronry will be protected if the recommendation is approved.
Mr. H1edik said the restrictions on the use of the Pudding Creek site are not
automatically lifted if the herons abandon the site for three years. The
Department of Fish and Wildlife, Lane County, and the two cities will then
evaluate the site. If a decision is made that the site is still significant,
the restrictions may remain.
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Mr. H1edik said the Sand and Gravel Review Committee reviews operational
standards, but an advisory board to the committee could be appointed. It
could be composed of conservationists, farmers, and others with specific
concerns.
Addressing the consistency issue, Mr. Hledik said several methods are used in
Oregon to protect natural areas. For instance, Metro Plan policies and site
review procedures are used to protect Gillespie Butte while other approaches
are used in Willow Creek. He said there is an operational plan for the
Pudding Creek area filed with Lane County now. Excluding the Pudding Creek
and Confluence Island heronries, only one of the 14, privately-owned heronries
identified in 1984 in Lane County has the NR designation. Lane County
Ordinance PA 892 indicates management plans should be developed for the 100
sensitive nesting and feeding sites in the county.
Mr. Hledik had no objection to the condition suggested by Mr. Greer which
would start the three-year period again if the herons return to an abandoned
site. He urged approval of the recommendations.
Mr. Rust wondered about the need for sand and gravel property. Mr. H1edik
said the property at the end of County Farm Road on the south side of the
McKenzie River will be mined out in five to ten years. If economic develop-
ment increases, sand and gravel use will increase. Wi1dish Land Company will
protect the heronry, but it would like to be able to use the sand and gravel
in the Pudding Creek area.
Mr. Miller asked what the Wi1dish Company will do if the herons are still at
Pudding Creek and the sand and gravel is needed. Mr. H1edik said, "Then it is
our tough luck."
Responding to a question from Mr. Simmons, Mr. Hledik said about 200 acres are
affected by the Wi1dish Company during a year. About 50 acres about 15 feet
deep will supply sand and gravel for two or three seasons.
Answering questions from Mr. Ball, Mr. Hledik said most of the Wi1dish produc-
tion is along the McKenzie River. The area near Mt. Pisgah is not actively
used, but it is under permit. It might be needed in five or ten years.
Mr. Ball said the buffer in the operational plan is the same as the buffer in
the NR zone. He wondered what would happen if the heronry is abandoned and
the Fish and Wildlife Department has not completed studies necessary to deter-
mine if the heronry should be maintained because it may be needed in the
future. In response, Mr. H1edik read Policy 36 (c) in the Metro Plan which
indicates any of the three jurisdictions may provide information if abandon-
ment is considered. Mr. Ball said the information he would need would
probably have to be provided by the Fish and Wildlife Department.
Responding to another question from Mr. Ball, Mr. H1edik said his company had
been involved in negotiations for a land swap. The Wi1dish Company is sub-
mitting a proposal for a broad study of the Mt. Pisgah area which will ignore
present boundary lines and which will recognize that the land north of the
Howard Buford Park is in private ownership, but that perhaps it should be in
pUblic ownership. Mr. Ball assumed the company would be willing to include
~ the Pudding Creek Heronry in the transfer of ownership.
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Sue Boyd, 3429 Stark Court, Eugene, is president of the league of Women Voters
of Lane County. She read her testimony and then submitted it in writing. She
said the same protection should be given to the Pudding Creek Heronry that is
given the Confluence Island Heronry. The less restrictive treatment for the
Pudding Creek Heronry was based mainly on the desires of the landowner. It
was not based on the needs of the herons. She said Statewide Goals 5 and 15
require protection of the habitat and the NR designation offers the best
guarantee that the habitat will be protected. She urged approval of the
recommendation of the Lane County Planning Commission.
Mr. Gassman asked if anyone else wished to testify on the heronries, the
Russel Creek Basin working paper, the airport exceptions working paper, the
Chapter 16 revisions to the County rural development code, the forest lands
working paper, or the rezoning of specific Lane County land parcels. No one
else wished to testify.
The meeting was adjourned at 9 p.m. and reconvened at 9:19 p.m.
Replying to questions from Mr. Rogers and Mr. DeFazio, Mr. Greer said he did
not know why the number of heron nests at Pudding Creek has decreased. Timber
was removed from the area in 1981. Mr. Greer thought the Salem office of the
Fish and Wildlife Department was considering the application of an operational
management plan to some heronries.
Answering questions from Mr. Rust, Mr. Gordon said the Confluence Island is in
the floodway. A series of permits will have to be acquired before sand and
gravel can be removed. There will have to be a setback water analysis. Most
of the sand and gravel deposits in the county are in floodways or flood
plains. The hazard goal is addressed in the working paper by the recognition
of the necessity for special permits.
Mr. Gassman closed the public hearing.
Mr. Obie suggested the councilors and commissioners be provided the oppor-
tunity to question each other.
Ms. Wooten suggested a discussion of the Pudding Creek Heronry because there
seemed to be agreement on the other issues. She favored the NR designation
for the Pudding Creek Heronry.
Mr. Gassman said there seemed to be consensus on the other issues.
Mr. Rust said he would not lIbuy intoll the recommendation for the Confluence
Island, but he thought a majority of the Board of Commissioners will. He
favored an NR designation for the whole island because the cottonwood stand is
unique. However, he felt the NR designation for the recommended portion of
the island is pretty good protection.
Ms. Ehrman said Mr. Moulton indicated that Delta Sand and Gravel Company will
request the same designation for the Confluence Island as is being recommended
for the Pudding Creek area. Consequently, the two heronries will be treated
equally.
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Mr. Ball said the three jurisdictions agreed that a land swap in the Pudding
Creek area is the preferable solution. So far, it has been lane County's
responsibility to swap County land for private holdings. He wondered if the
Eugene and Springfield City Councils would be willing to help.
Ms. Wooten said a land swap is the County's responsibility. The attorneys
have indicated that an NR designation for the Pudding Creek Heronry is not a
"taking" issue and, therefore, a land exchange is not necessary for the
application of the NR designation.
Mr. DeFazio said the land swap issue should be separated from the heronry
protection issues. The three jurisdictions agreed that a land swap was the
preferable solution during an earlier consideration of the Metro Plan.
The Lane County Board of Commissioners, the Eugene City Council, and the
representatives of the Springfield City Council divided into their respective
groups for discussion about 9:30 p.m.
Eugene City Council
Mayor Obie opened the discussion. He said the recommendation for the airport
exception area contained new information. Ms. Brody replied that the recom-
mended EFU zone and the overlay zone are acceptable to her, to Airport Manager
Bob Shelby, and to City Manager Micheal Gleason.
Ms. Brody said the Planning Commission voted 5:2 to recommend the operational
management plan for the Pudding Creek Heronry. Dorothy Anderson, President of
the Planning Commission, said she had voted with the minority of the commis-
sion. Ms. Brody said the majority of the commission indicated the operational
plan is an experiment which looks as though it will provide protection and the
minority were concerned with the level of protection provided the heronry.
Mr. Hansen said all the agencies are willing to work with the operational
management plan and there are lots of checks and balances. He urged cooper-
ation. He said protection of the birds is the most important thing. He
supported the MPC and Planning Commission recommendation.
Ms. Schue is on the MPC. She said the original staff recommendation to the
MPC was the NR designation for each heronry. She said the Babbs, who own
Delta Sand and Gravel, wanted to protect the herons and wanted to be coopera-
tive. The NR designation was worked out satisfactorily. Representatives from
Wildish Land Company did not want the NR designation. The MPC members kept
telling the staff to find a compromise. If the MPC members had wanted the NR
designation for the Wildish property, they should have said so to the staff.
The staff worked out a compromise for the Pudding Creek area. Most of the MPC
members approved the compromise even though it might not be the best solution.
Only one MPC member opposed the recommendation.
Ms. Wooten said she would not support the MPC recommendation for Pudding
Creek. She thought an NR designation would provide more protection for the
heronry and she did not want to create a precedent for a change in the
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Confluence Island designation. She noted that the designations can be changed
if there is a need for more sand and gravel before the year 2000. The opera-
tional management plan was the result of direction from the MPC which is a
political group. The original recommendation of Mr. Gordon and the Fish and
Wildlife Department was an NR designation for both heronries.
Mr. Miller favored the NR designation for Pudding Creek with the understanding
that studies that will provide needed information will be completed. He said
an operational management plan could be kept lion the shelf."
Ms. Ehrman did not want to experiment and destroy the nesting habitat, and so
she favored the NR designation. She felt the same protection should be given
to each of the heronries.
Ms. Bascom said the operational management plan provided as much protection as
the NR designation. She did not feel the councilors should be afraid of the
plan or feel it is a compromise. She said the heronries are different and do
not need to be treated the same. She was reassured to learn the three-year
review will begin again if the herons return to an abandoned rookery. Later
in the meeting, she said she could vote either way if a consensus with County
representatives could be reached.
The councilors said they did not know much about the land swap issue Mr. Ball
had raised.
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Ms. Brody suggested the council wait to act on the Planning Commission's
recommendation until after the Lane County Board of Commissioners has acted on
the recommendation.
Mr. Hansen left the meeting.
Lane County Board of Commissioners
Roy Burns read the Pudding Creek Working Paper recommendation regarding land
exchanges. The pOlicy puts impetus on the State to come up with solutions.
Bill VanVactor, County Legal Counsel, recommended that if jurisdictions do not
approve the NR designation, the Metro Plan boundaries should be changed to
delete City jurisdictions. Roy Burns read the Metro Plan conflict resolution
process if counties and cities disagree and the commissioners discussed the
procedure.
Jerry Rust asked Bill Rogers how he felt about the NR designation. Mr. Rogers
commented that consistency is important, and said landowners differ in their
willingness to cooperate. He will support a management plan for Pudding
Creek. He saw some inconsistency in the Fish and Wildlife Department
treatment of approaches.
Chuck Ivey concurred with Rogers. Mr. Ivey pointed out the coastal heronry
policies afford as much protection. The process of change in the NR designa-
tion is too rigid if change is necessary.
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Mr. Rust said Jim Greer has been helpful.
Mr. Ivey said the Babb family, which owns the Confluence Island, was coopera-
tive and that should be recognized.
John Ball said the County has the responsibility with other jurisdictions to
find a comprehensive solution, but other jurisdictions do not appear willing.
The community will be better served by a management plan with more options.
If the cities are not willing to cooperate with joint planning, he would be
willing to elaborate the plan. In terms of ecological activities and protec-
tion, both approaches are similar.
Roy Burns said the urban growth boundary can be expanded.
Mr. Rust suggested the commissioners not take action.
Springfield City Council
Richard Gassman stated that the MPC recommendations had been developed after
much information and discussion by elected officials and Planning Commission
members.
Fred Simmons indicated a preference for a natural resource designation on the
Pudding Creek Heronry. He indicated that the operational plan did not appear
to offer as much protection.
Chris Larson indicated that it was important for locally elected officials to
reach a compromise to resolve the remaining Metropolitan Plan acknowledgement
issues.
Since the Springfield City Council members could not take official action,
they agreed that they could playa key role in any Eugene/Lane County com-
promise and would recommend to the Springfield City Council that a solution be
reached as Quickly as possible. They agreed unanimously with the MPC recom-
mendations except for Pudding Creek. Fred Simmons still felt strongly that a
natural resource designation should be applied.
Mr. Gassman reconvened all the groups together at 9:50 p.m.
Mr. Obie said the Eugene City Council did not reach a conclusion. The council
will have a work session and review the Pudding Creek issue.
Mr. DeFazio said the Lane County Board of Commissioners reached a 2:2:1
consensus. He suggested Mr. Ball explain the vote. Mr. Ball wanted to
protect the heronries, but he did not want to deal with them in isolation. He
said there is a broad land use issue in the Mt. Pisgah area which has been
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~ identified in the community for many years. It involves all the publicly-
'." owned land around Mt. Pisgah and the privately-owned land along the river.
Mr. Ball said each of the three jurisdictions is concerned about the zoning in
the area, and the jurisdictions share the responsibility for making a public
decision of the values in the area and how they will be addressed. If the
cities are willing to commit to a short time line for a joint effort to plan
the future of the Buford Park and the surrounding area with the County, the NR
zoning makes sense. If the cities are not willing to go along, he will accept
the concept of a management policy although the recommended management policy
is not acceptable to him. It will have to be strengthened. In that case, the
cities will have no obligation to participate in the long-range planning.
Ms. Wooten asked Mr. Ball if he was proposing that City land be part of a land
exchange. He replied that he would consider all options.
Ms. Larson reported that there was no official discussion of the Springfield
City Council, but the Council probably will not oppose the other jurisdic-
tions.
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Mr. Obie said the Eugene Council wished to resolve the issue. He said the
council will consider Mr. Ball's suggestion. He also said there might be
support in the Eugene City Council for a more restrictive operational
management plan.
Mr. Gassman said the Springfield councilors present agreed that the issue
concerning Mt. Pisgah is an area-wide one. They would be willing to partici-
pate in planning.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:55 p.m.
(Recorded by Betty Lou Rarick)
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