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e EUGENE CITY COUNCIL
November 23, 1977
Adjourned meeting from November 16, 1977, of the City Council of the City
of Eugene, Oregon, was called to order by His Honor Mayor Gus Keller at
11:30 a.m., November 23, 1977, at King's Table, Oakway Mall, with the ..-
following Council members present: Eric Haws, D. W. Hamel, Tom Williams,
Ray Bradley, Jack Delay, Scott Lieua11en, Brian Obie, and Betty Smith.
- I. Items from Mayor and Council
A. Letter re: Dog Contro1--Mr. Obie acknowledged receipt of a copy
of a letter addressing dog problems. He wondered what staff's
response was. Manager replied he had answered and will forward
a copy to Mr. Obie.
B. November 28 Council Meeting--Mayor Keller announced pUblic testi-
mony will not be taken on the sexual orientation amendment.
Auxiliary loud speakers will be hooked up in various rooms around
City Hall to prevent overcrowding in the Council Chamber. Doors
will be opened at 6:30 p.m.
C. Applications for Commissions and Board Appointments--Manager noted
e the deadline for applications is 5 p.m., December 2, Friday.
D. Budget Committee Meeting December 1--Manager announced the purpose
of this meeting would be to orientate new committee members. Two
appointments need to be made by Councilors for the Budget Committee,
and Manager requested Councilors make those appointments prior to
December 1. The regular Budget Committee meeting will be held
December 15, 7:30 p.m., McNutt Room.
E. Civic Center Architect Selection--Memo distributed.
Manager noted this item was in response to Council's request for
further information regarding the local architect relationship
with Luckman Associates.
Dean Baumgartner said the memo summarized the extent of the relation-
ship between the local architect and Luckman. He said seven local.
architects had been considered with the final selection of Unthank
Seder and Poticha. Luckman met with that firm to arrive at the exact
determination of the relationship and what the work distribution
percentage would be. He sai d thi s related only to the architec-
tural portion of the first phase, the determination of construction
costs estimates for the project . The local firm will do approxi-
mately 40 percent of the initial work. In addition, 20-50 percent
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of the work done by Luckman will be done in Eugene. An agreement
had been reached between the two on this breakdown, with both feeling 41'
it to be a fair division of work and responsi~ilities. Mr. Baumgartner
continued he understood this clarified the amendment to the motion
to accept Luckman Partnership as the approved national firm for
this first phase.
Mr. Haws wondered if there was going\to be a contract directly with
the local firm. Manager said the contract was with Luckman Partership
only. Mr. Haws then wondered if the firm met the affirmative action
goals, to which Mr. Baumgarter replied yes, they had met all require-
ments. Mr. Haws then requested a copy of the contract.
Mr. Lieual]en recalled Mr. Williams' intent in his amendment to the
motion was to approve a relationship. He questioned a representative
from the local firm as to whether they felt satisfied with the re-
lationship as presented. Mr. Unthank and Mr. Poticha both expressed
satisfaction and reinforced the statements made by Mr. Baumgartner.
They reiterated this was for the first phase only, and the second
phase had not yet been negotiated.
Mr. Williams wondered if Council was making a firm commitment through
Phases 2 and 3 by approving this relationship agreement. Mr. Baumgartner
replied that no contract commitment had been made; however, it was
hoped the arrangement and working relationship would go beyond the
first phase.
Mr. Williams moved, seconded by Mr. Hamel, to accept the pro- e
posal as presented by Luckman and accept the local firm of
Unthank Seder Poticha to work with Luckman Associates.
Mr. Haws wondered if the working relationship agreement had been
committed in writing. Mr. Baumgartner replied it was a verbal
agreement at this point. Mr. Haws then said he would like to see
the agreement in writing before he voted on it. Mayor Keller
responded to Mr. Haws that if the intent is in evidence, then
Council should feel fairly safe this is a good agreement. He
felt the two firms could work out a sufficient arrangement, and
Council delaying just to see the agreement in writing would simply
hold up progress. Mr. Haws indicated he would vote no until he
could see the contract in writing.
Vote was taken on the motion, which carried with all Council
members present voting aye, except Mr. Haws voting no.
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F. Minorities Commission--Manager noted resignation of Ron Sparks and
the availability of Jim Cisler,1265 Oakway Terrace, who had been
II appointed previously by Council as an alternate.
Mr. Haws moved, seconded by Mr. Hamel, to accept the resignation
of Ron Sparks and to appoint Jim Cisler to the Minorities Commis-
sion for a term ending 1/1/80.
In answer to a question by Mr. Haws, Andy Clement replied there were
still two alternates for this commission.
Vote was taken on the motion which carried unanimously.
II. Site Selection for Civic Center Auditorium--Letter distributed.
Manager noted Council had received a site selection report, in addition
to the letter attached to the agenda. The letter indicated general
public agreement on the site selected by the Civic Center Commission.
He said the final report received included information on all the sites
evaluated and the various factors in evaluation. Action requested by
Council today was to approve the site as recommended by Civic Center
Commission so that plans may start for the development.
Mr. Baumgartner reviewed the site selection process by the Civic Center
Commission. He said it included evaluation of 17 individual sites,
as presented to Council in the final report. He said the Commission
was unanimous with the exception of one vote in selecting the downtown
site as presented to Council. In the opinion of the architects, at
e this phase of preliminary cost estimate, the site selected is suffi-
cient to encompass what has been expressed as the desire of the
communi ty. He said there was some question regarding requirement for
additional parking. He said this related to the required surrounding
. parking in the central district. Another consideration was location of
a hotel in the surrounding area.
On the basis of the above concerns, Mr. Baumgartner said the construction
firm recommended looking at two additional potential sites: One north-
east, containing a block and a half; the other immediately west of Olive
Street. He said in addition, there had been a number of discussions with
LTD regarding their development of facilities and its relationship to a
civic center site. He said 8th and Willamette Street was a potential site
for LTD facilities. He said this would continue to be considered as the
project moved into the preliminary design phase.
Based on these considerations, the Civic Center Commission agreed to
recommend to City Council a two-square block area in the central business
district bordered by 6th and 7th avenues, Oak and Olive streets, with
the understanding that if more space is needed, the Commission will
come back to the City Council for approval at that time.
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Mr. Haws wondered if it had been determined what type of building was
going to be constructed. Mr. Baumgartner replied it was only in a e
conceptual stage. He said a further development study would be in
progress, but there were only "footprints" available now. Mr. Haws
wondered if the final design and type would come before Council for
approval. Mr. Baumgartner replied that was included in the report
Council had received. Mr. Haws~did not remember voting for a particular
type of complex.
Mr. Obie said the Commission had gone through a thorough study and had
made a decision, developed, and approved a concept. Mr. Haws wondered
if Council was going to approve that. Mr. Obie said it was not perceived
as a Council project, noting Council had provided a charge to the Com-
mission and it was carrying out that action. He said if City Council
wanted more say, then it should let the Commission know that at this
time. Mr. Haws then asked if he were correct in understanding that
Council chose the architect and site but did not choose what was to
appear on that site. Mr. Obie replied yes.
Mr. Lieuallen said that was not entirely true. He said the initial
charge was to develop a proposal for a performing arts center and a
multi-use convention complex. The Commission was still trying to
define that concept. He said, as proposed, the civic center complex
might include a small theater seating about 500 people, a larger
theater-concert hall seating about 2,500 people, and a conference
and activity center for community meetings and conventions. He thought
that general process had gone through the approval process of Council. e
Mr. Baumgartner reminded Council of the six-month action sheet, which
was presented to Council and approved by Council. The schedule included
February as a final date for presentation of a concept for Council
approval. He said the Commission was now looking at modifying the
concept and the interrelationship between the suggested proposal. He
said a very specific final concept, with price and priority in terms
of the project, would be before Council February 6.
Mr. Haws wondered what happened if a site were chosen and the design
for the concept changed. Mr. Baumgartner replied the site would accommo-
date anything the Commission was studying except a very large major
sports complex. Mr. Haws then wondered if a smaller facility were
chosen, what effect that would have on the proposed site. Mr. Baumgartner
said there were five acres on the proposed site. He said if a smaller
facility were chosen, it would allow for a more aesthetic development.
He said several sites among the 17 would have been acceptable, but this
one received the most public support and was recommended by the Commis-
sion. He noted it would be the one for which prices would be made
available to Council. He said it would become very prohibitive and
expensive to try to price development on any more than just this one
site. He reiterated that in February there would be a joint session
between Council and the Civic Center Commission to consider and approve
the final design and costs, and to authorize the contingency plans for
the architectural and design development phase.
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. Ms. Smith wondered if there were any efforts underway to use the
site specified as 6-B as space for a hotel development. Mr. Baumgartner
said the Commission had had some initial contacts and had referred
those to the ERA. He said it was assumed by the Commission that City
agencies would follow up on those initial requests and the Commission
would work with the City agencies.
Mr. Lieuallen reviewed the process for Council. He said some felt
Commission members were not getting involved as much as might be
desired. The suggestion was made that the Commission get more deeply
involved, and Mr. Lieuallen noted he had visited several sites in
California with the architect and staff to look at and talk about
how facilities were developed, financial planning, and role in the
community. He felt it very beneficial that that was happening. He
said the Commission will take a fairly active role from now on. He
said reports from the Commission process will have a great deal of
citizen involvement, with reports to Council as to how work is pro-
ceeding. He felt there was a great deal of understanding about what
the City wanted it to do with this civic center, and he felt very good
about the process as it was evolving. He encouraged Council and the
public to call staff or persons involved if there were any questions.
He reassured Council that the Commission was very much involved in
the proceedings with the Civic Center.
Mr. Hamel moved, seconded by Mr. Delay, to approve the site
as recommended (site noted 6-A).
e Mr. Lieuallen also noted for Council there were a number of people
at the hearings who spoke in favor of the downtown site. He said it
was hard to say if all those speaking in favor were representative of
the entire community, but they were well-represented groups. He said
it was a pretty impressive show of consensus of opinion for that site.
Mr. Haws said he never had conceived this to be what he wanted. He
would support a performing arts center but did not feel the people, or
he himself, wanted to spend tax dollars on a convention complex to attract
the hotel complex in the downtown area. He interpreted what Council was
doing as encouraging a hotel complex. Mr. Obie asked Mr. Haws how he
arrived at that interpretation. Mr. Obie felt the Commission was trying
hard to carry out the City Council direction. Mr. Haws said he thought
he had voted on an idea to promote a local performing arts center and not
to bring in outside performances or to encourage a hotel in the downtown
site. Rather, he said it was a concept to promote Eugene's local per-
forming arts. Mr. Obie said he could not understand that line of
reasoning. He said the original discussion by City Council talked about a
convention center aspect and Council had voted in that direction. Mr.
Haws thought he had voted only to explore that idea. He felt a performing
arts center was of higher priority.
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Mayor Keller said he did not think Mr. Baumgartner or the Commission
ever indicated that tax dollars were going to be used to build a hotel. .
He felt the idea that that was part of the propOSal to be totally in
error. In regard to the idea of a convention facility, City Council IS
charge was if that could be included, then it would be appropriate.
However, it would not be just a convention center. It could be used for
other performances that might come to town. It was in concept more a
multi-purpose facility. Mr. Haws reiterated he was opposed to spending
tax dollars for a convention-auditorium center in the downtown area to
attract a hotel. He would be willing to spend money to support a
performing arts center.
Mr. Lieua11en said the Commission was talking about an auditorium that
would have a variety of uses. The University, for example, could use
it as a large seminar facility, and he cited other examples of use
by the community as a multi-use center. He said it would not necessarily'
be just a performing arts center all the time. He also said a smaller
theater would be included that could be used by people in the community.
He said the performing arts element would be varied and flexible enough
to be very useful for the entire community. He noted the possibility
of Lane County building a larger exhibit hall at the fairgrounds. He
said the Civic Center Commission would not be looking at such a facility
on this site but would be looking at a multi-purpose center that could
be used by out-of-town conferences and conventions, and also a facility
that would be available to the entire community for smaller performing
arts. He characterized it as a multi-use, community-oriented facility.
Mr. Delay said he shared the basic concern about the final design and e
type of building. He did not think there was evidence that Council
was losing track of where the design was going at this stage. He noted
Mr. Baumgartner had said the final precise design and cost estimate
with more details would come later.
Vote was taken on the motion, which carried with all Council
members present voting aye, except Mr. Haws voting no.
Mr. Bradley wanted it noted for the record that he felt there were
too many concrete buildings in the downtown area, and he hoped the
Civic Center Commission would look at other kinds of building sub-
stances, such as wood structures.
III. Human Rights Commission Goals and Objectives--Memo distributed to Council.
Manager noted Council receipt of the Commissionls statement of goals
and objectives. He said the Human Rights Council also issued a statement
which seemed to indicate hope for greater City Council involvement. The
individual commissions' statements of goals and objectives were work plans,
as requested by Council, for use as a basis for measurement of Commission
performance.
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e Betsy Merck, Human Rights Specialist, said Council had requested the
human rights commissions to present a year's work plan. She reminded
Council of the annual report the human rights commissions had submitted to
Council, noting another would be presented October, 1978, based on the
goals and objectives as stated. However, in the meantime, staff would
be preparing periodic updates, based on the work plans as presented. She
noted for Council, under the Minority Commission, to delete III-A.
In response to a question from Mr. Obie, Ms. Merck replied the staff
report would be directly related to these goals and work plans. Ms.
Smith noted the Commission's stated goals and objectives would be very
helpful for City Council's review of the Annual Report.
Ms. Smith noted, under the Human Rights Council objectives, a request
for City Councilors to attend meetings. She wondered how this would take
place. Ms. Merck replied it had not yet been discussed in detail.
However, she noted the recent attendance by Mr. Haws and Mr. Williams
at the Aging Commission meeting, and the positive response from that.
She said the invitations to City Councilors would probably be on a
periodic basis. Comments from City Councilors in regard to
whether commissions are going in the right direction, and their role
vis a vis the Human Rights Council would be very valuable.
Mr. Haws moved, seconded by Mr. Hamel, to accept the goals and
objectives of the Human Rights Council and commissions. Motion
carried unanimOUSly.
e IV. Decision on Economic Development Vehicle
Manager reported the November 18 meeting with Springfield, Eugene, L-COG,
and County Commissioners, had been informative. From a staff point of
view, it was felt Council should support Eugene joining an economic
development commission as proposed by Commissioner Wood, with certain
conditions attached. The conditions relate primarily to City Council
having substantial appointing powers of membership to the Commission, and
through that representation, Eugene having considerable influence on the
deliberations of the Commission. Manager noted a memo distributed by
John Porter regarding the represenation on the proposed Economic
Improvement Commission.
Mr. Porter said the memo suggested certain key appointments City Council
should make. He said this would meet the suggested 40 percent voting
membership that is Eugene's proportion according to population. He said
the percentage could be reduced by decreasing membership on the Councilor
the school board. He said the lowest membership percentage should be
no less than 28 percent. He noted the groups outlined were: City Council
members--tw~cted; School District 4-J and School District 52 board
member--on~ ected; EWEB board member--one elected; Lane Community
College board member--one elected; Eugene Chamber of Commerce--one not
elected; Eugene League of Women Voters--one not elected; Eugene Planning
Commission--one not elected; and Lane County Labor Council--one not
elected.
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Ms. Smith wondered if it was the intent that City Council would be
making recommendations in these categories for the Economic Commission. e
Mr. Porter replied yes. Mr. Haws felt it important for Council to become
involved, but only under the conditions as recommended. He questioned
the 40-percent representation, noting it was his understanding the
final appointments would be approved by the County Commissioners. He
thought City Council should have the final approval. Secondly, he said,
since the membership was supposed to be citizens from Eugene, he felt it
important Council appoint only Eugene residents, noting a Lane Community
College board member might not be a resident of Eugene. He wondered if a
modification should be made to state Eugene residents only. Mr. Porter
replied the intent was to have Eugene citizen membership only. He said as
far as the final appointing power, that might be some political negotia-
tion City Council would have to work out with the County Commissioners and
L-COG.
Mr. Delay asked for clarification as to whether Mr. Porter was saying
the City Council would present a list of persons from these categories to
be members on the Commission. Mr. Porter replied that was the intent. He
said if the County Commissioners did not like the list, then it would be a
matter to be worked out between the two bodies and staff. He said he felt
these categories were a good representation of citizens in the community
and would have a balancing effect. He continued that City Council ought
to have a say on who is- on the Commission, and that was the intent of the
memo. He reiterated if the Commissioners did not accept the list, then
it would .have to be negotiated.
Mr. Obie expressed concern that Council was getting involved in the e
appointment process. He said the issue at hand was whether or not
Council was going to accept joining the Economic Improvement Commission.
Mr. Haws felt the issue, as explained by Mr. Whitelaw, was that an
economic situation exists in Lane County and in Eugene where there are
certain particular kinds of needs for economic development. As he
remembered Mr. Whitelaw's presentation, he said it was suggested the
community should train people to put them in jobS and a vehicle was Reeded
to obtain that goal. He understood staff was saying this was the best
vehicle available. He felt if that were the suggestion, and this was the
best vehicle available, he would only support joining this commission with
the understanding of conditions as outlined by staff. He felt Council
should proceed with caution and control.
Mr. Delay thought the reason Council was talking about appointment was,
to him, that was really the issue. He said there were two elements
involved: 1) That Eugene should have some quasi-proportionate represen-
tation on the Commission; and 2) Eugene should be sure to have some kind
of review power to be sure action cannot be taken that would be counter
productive to Eugene. He said Council should be assured that Eugene
maintains a certain degree of control over the direction the group
takes. He also felt the other jurisdictions should have the same
review power.
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Ms. Smith said she did not feel the two issues could be separated
e and would support the recommendation under the conditions that Eugene
have the right to review actions and 40 percent representation. She
said it was clear Eugene could not develop an economic vehicle alone
and felt it to Eugene's advantage to participate in this development.
Mayor Keller noted at the Friday economic development meeting, it
was clearly set forth that a port district was a possibility, but
that might curtail ativities for four to five years. He said at
least getting involved in the Economic Improvement Commission would
be a good start.
Mr. Bradley understood if the Council joined in the Economic Improvement
Commission, that would be a first step toward an Economic Improvement
District. He felt it important at this first stage that Eugene have the
final authority over the appointments of the members to the Commission.
He said if the County Commissioners cannot accept Eugene Council's recom-
mendations, then he would not support the Economic Improvement Commission.
He thought it important to have control over economic development within
Eugene and that could be done through the appointment process.
Mr. Obie said, as he remembered Mr. Whitelaw's presentation, that job
training was an integral part of the presentation. He wondered if this
meant as the area moved from an economic commission to an economic district
whether more CETA employees would be involved. Manager replied that was
certainly a possibility, as there would be potential for more grants
e to help in this area. Mr. Whitelaw replied the two were unrelated.
He said having a commission or not having it has no effect on more or
fewer CETA employees. Mr. Haws said he felt the staff would be working
with Lane County regarding CETA funding in any event. Assistant Manager
replied staff was working on it at the present time. He said having
City Council maintain some major control over what is happening with
the economic development in the area could interrelate the two. He said
Eugene would have some specific impact for distribution of CETA funds.
He said having the ability to deal with the employment problem in the
County made it important that that strategy stay closely in connection
one with the other.
Mr. Porter read the November 5 memo from the Planning staff to
City Council in which recommended actions suggested that the City join
with the County in a cooperative relationship to develop an economic
improvement commission and district. The City Council should endorse
the same type of partnership arrangement in employment training and
job development (CETA). He, noted it important that Council look at
jOb training issues in connection with the employment and the economy.
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Mr. Obie wondered in relation to the growth or no-growth issue, whether
Mr. Whitelaw felt this economic commission would have any impact. Mr. e
Whitelaw replied there was no way to speculate. He said what was being
presented on paper was strictly a coordinating body having impact only
on a certain number of bodies. He said the virtues of growth are un-
related to the creation of this commission, noting it is what happens
afterward. He said again the Commission would be coordinating activities
in regard to employment and growth. Mr. Porter said the issue was
managing whatever growth Eugene has by coordinating techniques and
he felt this was a positive way of looking at the growth issue in this
community. This would allow for looking at these problems on a broader
base in total, noting this would have to be done more in the future.
Mr. Haws moved, seconded by Mr Hamel, to approve Eugene's endorse-
ment of the concept of an economic improvement commission with
40 percent of the commission's voting members to be approved by
the Eugene Council, and a mechanism provided which allows the
City Council to validate actions which directly affect the City
of Eugene. Also, the City should endorse the same type of
partnership arrangement in employment training and jOb develop-
ment (CETA).
Stan Biles, Commissioner Woods' office, said it is the intent that indi-
vidual members would have the ability as provided in by-laws to review
actions which would directly affect the jurisdiction. Also, the City
would appoint members which the City wishes to have as its representatives;
the board would only ratify those appointments. Also, he said City Council --
would select its representation. He noted there could be a possible
conflict in appointing members, however, as the Lane Community College
Board had already chosen a member to serve, and, likewise, the Labor Council
was making such consideration. He said the question involved whether the
various groups should choose their own representatives or the City Council
should select them. Mr. Haws felt Council should decide how to appoint
and should check with each group to see what recommendations should be
made.
Vote was taken on the motion which passed unanimously.
A short recess was taken.
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V. Council Assistants Guideline Discussion--Memo distributed.
Manager referred Council to the briefing paper distributed noting its
focus on certain problems and outline for general use of Council Assis-
tants and objectives. He noted one of the problems was an attempt to
resolve priority conflicts with aides to be assigned on a first-come
first-served basis. He said it was hoped, through the guidelines as
outlined, Council would be able to obtain maximum benefits from the use
of Council assistants and that the use of those assistants would be
equitably assigned. The memo outlined how Council could deal with
departments and staff in general.
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Mr. Bradley wondered if interviews had been started. Manager noted
e they would start Monday, November 28. Mr. Bradley wondered if any
thought had been given to allowing City Councilors to sit in on the
interviews and participate in asking questions but not recommend
selection. Mr. Lieuallen responded he thought the City Charter
stated that Councilors could not be directly involved or attempt
to influence any appointment or selection. Stan Long, City Attorney,
said a Councilor would have to ask himself why he was wanting to sit
in on the interviews; and, if it were an attempt to direct selection,
citizens of Eugene could ask for forfeiture of office. He said he was
suggesting there had to be a good reason for a Councilor to be present.
Mr. Haws said in reading over the materials, he wondered if, generally
speaking, the flak catcher job had not been changed, renamed, with
hiring two people to do the same job. Manager said there were a number
of significant differences. The flak catcher position is to handle
complaints for all the city and not necessarily to work and do research
only for City Councilors. He said the Council Assistants were much
expanded in the areas of serving City Council.
Mr. Obie said by and large he had favorable response to the memo as
outl; ned. His main concern was regarding potential confidentiality
of the City Councilors' requests, wondering how a proposed request
might be treated, if it would be just between the Councilor and the
Council Assistant. City Manager replied if the request were to be made
public, the staff of City Manger's office would have to have a chance
e to review the 'research done and talk to the Councilor prior to its
coming up for public discussion. Mr. Obie said he understood that
procedure but he was more concerned about a proposal that might be
researched, then never get to the point of pUblic discussion. City
Attorney said, in terms of a written documents, there is a classifi-
cation of exempt pUblic documents. When a document concerns itself
with advisory preliminary free-thinking ideas, it could be classified
advisory and would be exempt from public disclosure. He said City
Manager would have to decide if staff should not disclose.
Assistant Manager noted staff was very sensitive to the concerns about
confidentiality. He said staff understood Council wanted to explore
ideas and noted there seemed to be a feeling among staff that Councilors
felt staff and department heads would get up-tight if these ideas were
explored. He said this matter had been discussed with various depart-
ment heads. The major concern of staff and department heads was that
Councilors viewed staff as being etched in certain postures that would
not help Councilors deal with issues or would want to explore other
options. He continued, staff felt Council Assistants would be of high
quality and would be producing quality work, but that it would not be work
resulting from one single person. He said the Council Assistant would be
working with others in exploring the views. Staff will understand the
confidentiality. He said they were trying to be very sensitive to that
and want to give Councilors good staff work.
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City Manager said in certain cases there would be no problem with
Council Assistants going ahead and doing research for Councilors. e
However, there would need to be some control over Council Assistants'
time so all Councilors would have access. Mayor Keller noted it was
not understood whether this situation was going to work but he felt
it important that Council give it a try. He said it may take much
patience and understanding but it appears to be a workable starting
point. He noted Council could change it at any time by adding or deleting
in the future. He noted if at any time Councilors felt any questions
about the process, then he hoped that Councilors would check first with
staff before proceeding.
Ms. Smith wanted clarification as to how information would be brought back
before Council. She said she would be uncomfortable if an individual
Councilor had a Council Assistant do research and then bring it up at the
first of the meeting under items from Council and Mayor before checking
with City Manager. Assistant Manager said the by-laws speak to that issue
in that the City Council must give notice of any issue and provide
materials for Council prior to the meeting.
Mr. Obie wondered, in a procedural question, whether he could take a
Council Assistant to a meeting, noting his attendance at the Joint
Parks meetings, in order to allow that assistant to learn what was
happening and give him the ability to follow up on work. Assistant
Manager noted for Council that most of the commissions, boards, and
committees have staff available, and it would ,be proper to call upon the
staff of that committee to provide any materials and secretarial help. e
However, if a Councilor wanted to develop a particular proposal regarding
his work on a particular committee, that may be a little different. He
noted it would be procedurally correct for a Councilor to involve staff
that have been assigned to those committees. City Manager said he under-
stood Mr. Obie's point as being that perhaps a research project might be
beyond the charge of a committee and perhaps find an issue that he wants
to be investigated through use of the Council Assistant.
Mr. Bradley suggested the idea of having each request and response
filed in the City Manager's office for future reference by Councilors. He
felt these documents would be good resource material. City Manager noted
that raised a question of possible duplication on issues, saying it would
be advisable to try to avoid such duplication. He said that was one
reason it was suggested that Councilors coordinate directly through the
City Manager's office. He said, however, to formalize that process was a
City Council decision. Assistant Manager noted that if requests and
reports were written, they would be filed and maintained.
Mr. Lieuallen noted there may be a problem related to how much time would
be available and the possibility that the number of people may need to
be increased at a later date. He also questioned setting agenda items
and wondered if the Charter requires City Manager to set the agenda.
Assistant Manager replied the by-laws provide for agenda preparation and
procedures.
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Mr. Lieuallen wondered to what extent Council Assistants could repre-
- sent individual Council members, noting perhaps there should be general
guidelines set forth. He wondered if perhaps Council Assistants could
represent Councilors at meeting to which a Council member is assigned by
Council, noting it might be confined to an official assignment that comes
from Mayor or City Council. He said he would like to have the ability to
ask a Council Assistant to attend meetings, not ongoing committees of
which he or she is a member but those which might relate to ideas or
projects the Councilor is interested in. He hoped Councilors would have
that opportunity and requested staff report back regarding the attendance
issue.
Assistant Manager noted sometimes staff persons are attending some of the
meetings and City Councilors might check with staff to get needed informa-
tion. A concern was that staff did not feel the Council Assistants,
should ever be placed in the position of representing a Councilor. Staff
felt uncomfortable wherever there was mixed membership in the event of
getting into a situation of arguing with a City Councilor in a pUblic
arena. That situation staff wished to avoid. He said if it were necessary
to send a Council Assistant to express the Councilor's view, it should
be done only through a written statement prepared by the Councilor.
Ms. Smith requested information regarding use of the Word Processing
Center, noting recently the information to Councilors was it was not
available. She wondered if that situation had been changed. She also
requested instruction sessions on the use of word processing. Assistant
e Manager noted it would be set up. Ms. Paget Engen responded Word
Processing was in the process of training new people and would prefer
to wait until those persons were well-trained, which would be after the
first of the year.
Mr. Bradley left the meeting.
VI. Calling public hearings January 4, 1978 re: Vacations (street, alley,
and easement)
Council Bill 1568--Calling public hearing January 4, 1978, re: Street
vacation located on east side of Candlelight Drive, north of Royal
Avenue (Transwestern) (SV 77-6) was read by council bill number and
title only, there being no Council member present requesting it be
read in full.
Mr. Haws moved, seconded by Mr. Hamel, that the bill be read the
second time by council bill number only, with unanimous consent
of the Council, and that enactment be considered at this time.
Motion carried unanimously, and the bill was read the second time
by council bill number only.
Mr. Haws moved, seconded by Mr. Hamel, that the bill be approved
and given final passage. Roll call vote. All Council members
present voting aye, the bill was declared passed and numbered
18077.
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Council Bill 1569--Calling public hearing January 4, 1978, re: Easement
vacation located on east side of Emerald Street between East 27th Avenue e
and East 28th Avenue (Barnes) (EV 77-6) was read by council bill number
and title only, there being no Council member present requesting that
it be read in full~
Mr. Haws moved, seconded by Mr. Hamel, that the bill be read the
second time by council bill number only, with unanimous consent
of the Counci 1, and that enactment be consi dered at thi s time'.
Motion carried unanimously, and the bill was read the second time
by council bill number only.
Mr. Haws moved, seconded by Mr. Hamel, that the bill be approved and
given final passage. Roll call vote. All Council members present
voting-aye, the bill was declared passed and numbered 18078.
Council Bill 1570--Calling pUblic hearing January 4, 1978 re: Alley
vacation located between Madison Street and Monroe Street from West
26th Avenue to West 27th Avenue (Neal) (AV 76-2) was read by Council
bill number and title only, there being no Council member preent re-
questing it be read in full.
Mr. Haws moved, seconded by Mr. Hamel, that the bill be read the
second time by council bill number only, with unanimous consent
of the Council, and that enactment be considered at this time.
Motion carried unanimously, and the bill was read the second time
by council bill number only. e
Mr. Haws moved, seconded by Mr. Hamel, that the bill be approved
and given final passage. Roll call vote. All Council members
present voting aye, the bill was declared passed and numbered
18079.
VII. Response to Commissioner Rust's Letter re: Joint Meeting with Councils--
Letter distributed.
Manager said in discussion with Mayor it was decided City Manager and
Mayor would meet with Commissioner Rust, Mayor Meyer from Springfield,
and Tom Cochran, City Manager of Springfield, to discuss agenda items.
VIII. Li uor License A lication: Chan e of Ownershi
Godtz Garden Restaurant, 390 East 40th Avenue R), from Tim and Louise
Owens to Dan and Molly Cole.
Mr. Haws moved, seconded by Mr. Hamel to approve and forward
to OLCC. Motion carried unanimously.
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I ",' ~ _ I:: Mr. Haws moved, seconded by Mr. Hamel, to approve Council
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--' minutes November 16, 1977. Roll call vote. Motion carried
unanimously.
Upon motion duly made, seconded, and passed, meeting was adjourned to November
28, 1977.
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City Manager
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