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M I NUT E S
EUGENE CITY COUNCIL
March 26, 1980
Adjourned meeting of the City Council of the City of Eugene, Oregon, was called
to order by His Honor Mayor Gus Keller, at 11:45 a.m., March 26, 1980, with the
following councilors present: Betty Smith, Scott Lieuallen, Eric Haws, Gretchen
Miller, Brian Obie, Emily Schue, and Jack Delay. Councilor D. W. Hamel was
absent.
I. ITEMS FROM MAYOR AND COUNCIL, APPOINTMENTS, ANNOUNCEMENTS, AGENDA ADJUSTMENTS
Mayor Keller noted that today's meeting is being conducted with the
revised agenda, not the original.
A. Mr. Obie referred to a memo which had gone to Mayor Keller and the
councilors regarding a proposal affecting 25 non-conforming use mobile
homes. In the past, mobile homes have been treated as non-conforming
uses of land and could not be rented or resold. Replacement of these
mobile homes is expensive, and it also works against the objective of
low-cost housing. He urged the council to refer this matter to the
Planning Commission and to consider a code amendment that would
eliminate the restrictions regarding resale and rental.
~ Mr. Obie moved, seconded by Ms. Smith, to refer this memo's
contents to the Planning Commission. Roll call vote; motion
carried unanimously.
B. Mr. Haws stated he would not be present at the April 14 council
meeting.
C. Ms. Smith referred to the National League of Cities memo highlights.
She stated the meeting had been very successful and they had the
opportunity to meet with the congressional delegation. They also had
the opportunity to give input to the Energy and Environmental Quality
Natural Resources Committee. Originally, funding of treatment plants
was not to be high priority with this committee, but with the input
they were able to give, they were able to maintain this issue and
identify it as a high-priority item. They also had the opportunity
to speak in favor of revenue sharing. The information they received is
that State revenue sharing may be in trouble, but our congressional
delegation is hopeful that they can continue to support City revenue
sharing. Due to budget cuts, the CETA and Community Development Block
Grant programs may be in jeopardy this next fiscal year, and they
conveyed their concerns for Eugene and for the State of Oregon.
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D. Wastewater Treatment--Ms. Smith stated that regarding the letter from
Mr. Sawyer, funds for wastewater treatment will be frozen. The
commission is actively pursuing release of some of those funds, since 4It
the City's facilities are under construction.
E. [PAC Commission--Mr. Lieuallen requested that the amendment to the
EPAC ordinance changing the number of members be brought back at the
April 2 meeting.
F. Metropolitan Area Transportation Committee--Ms. Miller stated that the
Metropolitan Area Transportation Committee is working on transportation
efficiency and transportation energy curtailment plans. More informa-
tion is available in the first draft of the report regarding approaches
to regional energy conservation and what to do in a serious fuel
curtailment crisis. The committee is talking about going back to the
Legislature for authorization legislation for an inspection and
maintenance program.
G. Vehicle Inspection-Maintenance Program--Councilor Miller indicated
that the Metropolitan Area Transportation Committee is considering
requesting the L-COG staff to work with DEQ, Motor Vehicles Division,
Lane County, and the City of Springfield in order to develop appro-
priate enabling State legislation and budget appropriation needs. She
indicated that she will assume this course of action is agreeable to
the council unless she heard differently from them.
H. Labor Council Memo Regardin~ CETA Proposal--Mayor Keller stated that a
letter from the Labor Councll stating opposition to setting up any
separate or additional CETA bureaucracy for servicing CETA clients in
Lane County had been received.
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I. League of Ore~on Cities Meeting--Mr. Allen stated he had received a
flier lndicatlng that the regional League of Oregon Cities meeting
would be held in Cottage Grove on April 15 at 2 p.m. and he would like
to receive responses from anyone who would be attending by Wednesday,
April 2.
II. COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT APPLICATIONS FOR FISCAL YEAR 1980-81
Mr. Allen stated that Christina Hofmann and Mike Tharp, HCC, were available
for presenting background on this item. He stated this item had previously
been.given a public hearing.
Mr. Delay stated he had missed the public hearing as he had thought March 26
was when this item would be discussed and was out of town on March 24. He
said that it is a difficult task to determine which projects are funded
as there are limited funds and numerous neighborhood projects. Different
and new criteria were implemented this year to help people become better
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able to improve their applications for grant funding. More and more
different groups are requesting funding. He felt the council could
consider expanding community development funds by adding general fund
monies. This program is good for citizen participation, neighborhoods,
and the City.
Mr. Obie asked, if Community Development Block Grant funding is reduced in
the next two years, what would happen to the neighborhoods that have not
been helped? Mr. Delay responded that it would be up to the council
whether the program must terminate or be funded through another mechanism.
He expressed regrets that some neighborhoods have been excluded from the
process. He further stated this could be included in a supplemental
budget. Mr. Obie asked if there was any consideration this year to try to
spread those monies further. Mr. Delay responded that a large number of
neighborhoods are ineligible and there are primary, secondary, and third
priority levels. Those are determined on the basis of planning data,
block group data, income levels, and level of deterioration in the neigh-
borhood. The overall committee policy has been basically the same since
the program began. Funds are so limited and spreading out the monies
evenly would dilute the effect. The emphasis has been to focus primarily
on one. specific neighborhood per year. First was Westside Neighborhood,
then Whiteaker, West University was third, and Far West will be next.
This has been done to produce observable changes so that private invest-
ment will be stimulated.
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Mr. Obie mentioned, in regard to Project 3B--Neighborhood Housing Resource
Center for $18,000--that it is outlined that staff will be provided to
look at methods to prevent low- and moderate-income displacement. He
would like to know where this position will be. Ms. Hofmann responded it
is now with the non-profit Willamette Community Design Center. One
objective would be to research alternative design possibilities; another
is to look at the problem of displacement.
Mr. Obie then asked, in regard to outreach staffing for $33,000, what
those staff members do. Ms. Hofmann responded that they are liaison
workers between neighborhood residents and City staff to complete the
funded projects. For example, the liaison could put together a committee
and work with City staff to make sure that bills were paid. Mr. Obie then
asked for clarification on Item III-P, Weatherization Loans for $7,000,
with zero-percent interest. He asked if this was a new program and how
one would qualify for the program. Ms. Hofmann stated this is being tried
as an experiment in the West University Neighborhood with investor-owners.
This gives them an additional incentive to use the State weatherization
program. Mr. Obie then asked if qualifying standards have been estab-
lished. Ms. Hofmann responded that there were none at this point.
Ms. Smith stated she had a question regarding a project raised at the
March 24 public hearing--that of lighting for the Fairmount Neighborhood.
She asked why it was not funded. Ms. Hofmann stated the project was not
included because Public Works is unable to undertake any more lighting
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projects because of energy costs. The problem was not with installation
costs; rather, it was one of maintenance. Mr. Allen said that the City
Manager's Office and the Public Works Department are concerned about ~
whether existing lighting projects will need to be cut back. ..,
Mr. Obie then asked, in regard to Project 4-L, a $15,000 continuing
Whiteaker youth outreach project, what results have been accomplished and
how this project will carryon if these funds are discontinued. Ms.
Hofmann responded that the youth worker basically provides recreational
opportunities for youth. Information and referral services also are
provided, especially in regard to employment. Continuation is considered
for all projects; and this is the third year of this project and the plan
is to develop resources for continuation.
Mr. Obie stated that the deadline is March 28 and he has some concerns,
since this is a $1.376-mi1lion project. He feels it is poor organization
on the part of the council to be considering this application at such a
late date. A better plan must be developed for getting the information
sooner so they can better understand and review the issues.
Ms. Smith moved, seconded by Mr. Lieuallen, to approve Community
Development Block Grant application as submitted. Roll call
vote; motion carried unanimously.
III. ROUTINE ITEMS FOR COUNCIL APPROVAL
A. Approval of Council Minutes of February 27, March 5, March 10,
and March 12, 1980
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Ms. Smith moved, seconded by Mr. Lieual1en, to approve
council minutes of February 27, March 5, March 10, and
March 12, 1980. Roll call vote; motion carried unanimously.
B. Improvement Petitions
Mr. Allen stated that both of the improvement petitions to be discussed were
routine matters.
1. Danebo Industrial Park
Res. No. 3334--A resolution authorizing street paving, sanitary sewer,
and storm sewer construction within and adjacent to Danebo
Industrial Park (1784)
Ms. Smith moved, seconded by Mr. Lieuallen, that the resolution be
adopted. Roll call vote; motion carried unanimously.
2. Bell Avenue
Res. No. 3335--A resolution authorizing street paving on Bell Avenue
from Berntzen Road to Louis Street (1850)
Ms. Smith moved, seconded by Mr. Lieuallen, to adopt the
resolution. Roll call vote; motion carried unanimously,
with Mr. Obie out of the chamber at the time.
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IV. PUBLIC HEARINGS
A. Supplemental Budget (memo and ordinance distributed)--Mr. Allen
stated that this is a supplemental budget and it has had one public
hearing.
Public hearing was opened.
There being no testimony, public hearing was closed.
CB 2105--An ordinance adopting a supplemental budget; making appro-
priations for the City of Eugene for the fiscal year beginning
July 1, 1979, and ending June 30, 1980; and declaring an
emergency
Ms. Smith moved, seconded by Mr. Lieuallen, that the bill be read
the second time by council bill number only, with unanimous
consent of the council, and that enactment be considered at this
time. Roll call vote; motion carried unanimously, with Mr. Obie
out of the chamber. The bill was read the second time by council
bill number only.
Ms. Smith moved, seconded by Mr. Lieuallen, that the bill be
approved and given final passage. Roll call vote; all councilors
present voted aye, with Mr. Obie out of the chamber, and the bill
was declared passed and numbered 18608.
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B. New Liquor License Outlet: Pietro's Gold Cost Pizza Parlour (Retail
Malt Beverage); Located 3540 West 11th; applicant: Pietro.s Corporation--
Mr. Allen stated this is a new outlet and everything is in order and
approval is recommended.
Public hearing was opened.
There being no testimony, public hearing was closed.
Ms. Smith moved, seconded by Mr. Lieuallen, to forward to OLCC
with recommendation for approval, subject to conditions, if any.
Roll call vote; motion carried unanimously, with Mr. Obie out of
the chamber.
V. ORDINANCE FOR SECOND READING
A. Easement Vacation for Abarr, Hanamura, Spear, and Streede (EV 79-1)--
Mr. Allen stated the required fees had been collected and final
approval is recommended.
CB 1913--An ordinance authorizing easement vacation located between
Parliament Street and Cornell Way
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Ms. Smith moved~ seconded by Mr. Lieuallen~ that the bill be
approved and given final passage. Roll call vote; all councilors ~
present voted aye~ with Mr. Obie out of the chamber~ and the bill ..,
was declared passed and numbered 18609.
VI. j EWEB FACILITIES AGREEMENTS (memo distributed)
Mr. Allen stated that both of these agreements are in order and approval
is recommended.
Res. No. 3336--A resolution authorizing the City Manager to grant EWEB a
right-of-way and access permit on City property located at
450 North Fillmore Street for utility services
Ms. Smith moved~ seconded by Mr. Lieuallen~ to adopt the resolu-
tion. Roll call vote; motion carried unanimously.
Res. No. 3337--A resolution authorizing the City Manager to grant EWEB
a right-of-way and access permit on City property located
at Mahlon Sweet Airport for utility services
Ms. Smith moved~ seconded by Mr. Lieuallen~ to adopt the resolu-
tion. Roll call vote; motion carried unanimously.
VII. CETA CONSORTIUM/PRIME SPONSOR OPTIONS (memo distributed)
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Mr. Allen introduced Gary Long~ Special Staff Services Director~ to give
background information.
Mr. Long stated the staff memorandum outlined several options and recom-
mendations for forming a City-County consortium board for the CETA program.
Certain services would be provided by the City and the County separately.
Intake~ placement~ and certain private-sector programs would be handled
by joint contracting arrangements; a small administrative staff is proposed
and could be housed with either the County or the City. This consortium
proposal does not have the support of the Lane County staff and mayor may
not be accepted by the Lane County Commissioners. If the council adopts
the recommended course of action~ but Lane County fails to concur~ then
the staff recommends that two cooperative but independent prime sponsors
be formed. The staff recommendation is based on an analysis of the current
Lane County program (Attachments D and E of staff memorandum). Attachments
A through C are summaries of the pros and cons of the various options. Staff
recommendation is made in the belief that it will improve efficiency~ improve
participation results~ and reduce costs. They are proposing~ if the City
becomes directly involved in CETA service delivery~ that the approach be
through competitive bid and contracting processes. As indicated in this
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memo, Lane County's performance ranks at average or lower than average
with regard to service delivery. Funding volume involved is $14 million,
the City's portion is approximately $4 million. It is felt that it would
be better to have two separate programs than joint liability in another
organization. In regard to competitive bidding, the hope is to improve
service delivery to target groups. There is also the question of residency
and its impact with regard to each of the choices presented. A consortium
is recommended rather than prime sponsorship. The residency issue will
not go away, no matter which option is chosen. There is quite a bit of
flexibility either with the consortium or as a prime sponsor. Reciprocal
arrangements can be made to reduce hardships to employers or to applicants.
There have been questions raised as to the accuracy of the Staff report
statistics. They have double checked and staff believes that the informa-
tion is accurate. April 7 is the deadline for consorting with Lane County
or filing an intent to consort. By this date, a letter outlining intent
and some basic elements of the consortium relationship must arrive in
Seattle.
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Mr. Obie asked how Chart IB in Attachment 0 is to be read. Randy Miller,
CETA Program Manager for the City, responded that the first column is
actual performance, the second column is the planned performance, and the
third column is a comparison. The rating is from top to bottom and Lane
County is at the very bottom. This concerns Title. lIB, training for 10ng-
term unemployed with no skills, and the number of these individuals who
enter the job market after the CETA position is terminated.
Mr. Lieuallen asked if Option B is recommended rather than Option C.
Mr. Long responded that Option B is recommended by City staff but the
County feels Option C would be best. Mr. Lieua11en asked if the defects
that the City staff sees in the options are a difference in service
delivery and a difference in administrative approach. He asked if identif-
ication of trainers and target populations would be contracted out. Mr.
Long responded that many of the services could be contracted out. Mr.
Lieua11en asked if the County provides these services in-house. Mr. Long
responded yes, it has been, as Lane County does not feel contracting would
provide them with sufficient control. Mr. Lieuallen asked how City staff
responded to the issues of control. Mr. Long replied he views accountability
as being good management regardless of whether it is contract management
or staff supervision.
Mr. Lieua11en asked how Mr. Long sees the residency situation. Mr. Long
responded that Federal regulations require that monies be allocated to city
and county residents in proportionate amounts. Mr. Lieuallen asked if
residency would continue to be a problem. Mr. Long responded that the
residency situation, regardless of the option chosen, must be managed much
as it is now. City money goes to city residents and County money goes to
county residents. Positions can be swapped between the two or a pool of
money can be set up. Mr. Lieual1en asked if City policy might be ignored
in a consortium arrangement. Mr. Long responded that it has been very diff-
icult at the present time, especially in the PSE program, to get the necessary
attention regarding City concerns. It has been a problem since the City
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has become a program agent. Under Option C, there would be a liaison
person to deal with situations such as this. Mr. Lieuallen asked for an
example of a case where City policy is being thwarted. Mr. Long stated
that they are proposing that as much money as possible be diverted to the
Eugene Summer program; it has high priority for the City. This liaison
.would work with the performing arts and the people involved in Eugene
Summer. Mr. Lieuallen stated that Mr. Long is missing the point. Mr.
Lieuallen asked him to identify a policy goal which the City has where
there might be a conflict. Ms. Smith stated that she does not want to
have a situation where due to CETA conflicts this negatively affects other
inter-governmental relationships. Mr. Lieuallen asked if the City is
at cross purposes with the County in regard to Eugene Summer, Mr. Long
responded that he had been told that most proposals in regard to Eugene
Summer had been denied by Lane County. The City was hoping to get a
higher priority on this project. Mr. Lieuallen stated that a proposal was
made to support Eugene Summer and he understands that the City does not
have any money for this program but they are urging the County to contribute.
Mr. Long responded that, in a meeting held on March 24, it was determined
that approximately $70,000 could be devoted to that or some other targeted
project this summer.
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Ms. Miller asked if there had ever been a public hearing on this. Mr.
Long responded that there is no requirement for one, but that there has
been a task force. Ms. Smith stated that at the Program Agent Advisory
Committee meetings, if someone wants to speak, they ar~ allowed to. Ms.
Miller stated that they are speaking about a substantial amount of money
and she feels it would be a good idea to have a public hearing. She would
like to see public input on how the organizational structure should be set
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Ms. Miller asked, in regard to Attachment E--a comparison of administrative
overhead--how firm the staff cost projections on the City prime sponsor or
independent program/consortium board would be. Mr. Miller responded that
a certain percentage of each title program is allocated for administrative
costs and what is left over can be used for staff costs. They found that
Lane County was high in its overhead. By contracting, they predict that
they could have total overhead costs of 25 percent or less. He added he
feels very comfortable with that figure.
, Ms. Miller stated she would like to hear more about the residency problem.
It seems like a problem for agencies to fill positions for certain areas.
Mr. Miller responded that it is more of a prOblem for agencies if the
agency is funded only by Lane County, but is located within the city
limits. They must find someone from the County to fill the positions.
Arrangements can be made to swap positions, however. When the City
became a program agent, the agencies were split 50/50 and each program
operator had a separate labor pool. This split could be done differently;
monies could be split half and half to each funded agency.
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Mr. Long stated he had attended a LINK meeting and that the agencies
with the residency problems are under County jurisdiction. There are
options available that have not been explored. Ms. Miller stated she
knows this is a major problem for people involved. She wants to know what
the options are and if the City has explored them. Mr. Miller responded
that they had not heard about the existence of major problems, but that a
grievance procedure is provided and they have had no filings for grievance
procedures. There has not been sufficient evidence of a problem to explore
options at this time.
Ms. Miller asked if the council chose Option A or B, what would happen
to the reSidency situation. Mr. Long responded that the residency situation
will not go away under any of the options. The greatest flexibility is in
Option B and Option C with a consortium umbrella. Ms. Miller asked if
administration would be more difficult under the full consortium. Mr.
Miller responded that would only happen if there was difficulty between
the two agencies. Mr. Lieuallen stated that apparently the residency
requirement is being accommodated on the streets by the people in order to
keep their jobs. This may be why the CETA office is not hearing about
them. Mr. Lieuallen asked if the number of jobs was determined by the
population. Mr. Miller responded that the Department of Labor does not
set a number of positions; a certain amount of funds are given under the
program. Mr. Lieuallen asked if a certain percentage of the population
was in Eugene if that means that a certain percentage of the participants
in the CETA program must be from the city of Eugene. Mr. Miller responded
that was not the case. It is not a certain percentage of participants.
Mr. Lieuallen asked if under the consortium, participants could apply for
any job offered by the consortium. Mr. Miller responded that under a
consortium, county residents could still not apply for positions targeted
for city residents. Mr. Lieuallen asked if it was correct that under the
consortium a percentage of the monies goes to Eugene and until those jobs
fill up, Eugene residents could still apply for any jobs, even if they
would be within the Springfield city limits and that this would be up to
the percentage allocations within the dollar amounts. Mr. Miller responded
that that was correct.
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Mr. Obie stated that he had a 1:30 appointment and would be leaving at that
time.
Mr. Delay asked if it is correct that the same dollar amount under the
consortium would be targeted for Eugene residents but that the mechanism
might be different. He asked for clarification if an after-the-fact
audit would be done to ensure that this happens. If residency is a
problem, a job pool could be established to swap on paper although these
mechanisms have not been qeveloped. Mr. Miller responded he was correct
in all of those statements. Mr. Long stated that there has not been a
great deal of feedback on the residency issue. He heard that about three
weeks ago the County-based agencies were still having problems with
residency.
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Mr. Delay asked if the program could be operated more efficiently and more
programs could be offered for the same dollars. Mr. Long responded that
services could be increased with the same amount of dollars according to
the staff report.
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Mr. Delay asked for status of Titles 11-0 and VI, public service and
employment projects. Mr. Miller responded that Title VI has a very good 4It
performance record right now. In regard to Title II-D, the City would
prefer to change the structure, as people are not getting their needs
taken care of the way it is currently being' handled. Eighty percent of
these people have college educations or more. With the structure the
County is currently using there is no distinction between Title 11-0 and
Title VI. In regard to Title II-D, a 29-percent job placement rate is not
good. Staff is sure they could improve the performance of that group.
Mr. Delay asked how Mr. Miller saw contracting as being more effective.
Mr. Miller responded that one way this could be done would be to explore
with the local school district a contracting option for a delivery system
for youth services as an example. Mr. Delay asked if there was a sufficient
number of non-profit agencies to handle the delivery of services. Mr.
Miller responded that there are many non-profit agencies and the City
staff is sure they could provide services. Mr. Lieuallen asked if in-house
staff versus "contracting" has been a big stumbling block in discussions
with Lane County. Mr. Miller responded that at first the County was
absolutely opposed to this idea because they did not feel adequate accounta-
bility could be assured with contracting. Toward the end of negotiations,
there was some indication that the County felt contracting might be a
possible option under a consortium. This would be a staff reduction for
the County. Mayor Keller stated. he did not feel that the discussions with
the County had reached any conclusions and both remain far apart on this
issue.
Mr. Lieuallen stated that the County program has been criticized and he
would like clarification on what is wrong with their outreach and how the
City could do better. Mr. Miller responded that new regulations have
been enacted to cut down on people who are not eligible and this has
created some complaints. He further stated the County has had a policy
which requires people to wait in line. Not many handicapped people nor
women with children could stand in line for a long period of time; there-
fore they are not considered for positions. He added that the City is
concerned, as earlier stated, that the County does not differentiate
between Title VI and II-D. Mr. Lieuallen stated he felt the County had
made good arguments for Option C and asked if the County has reached
a consensus in regard to contracting. Mr. Long responded that the
County might be open to that, but did not feel that is a very good possi-
bility. Mr. Lieuallen stated he would like a response from the County
staff to some of these accusations being made since they are pretty
severe. Mr. Obie stated he is ready to make a decision. Mr. Lieuallen
stated he would like information on how the County feels about the contract
issue, the residency issue, their intake process, and their outreach.
Mayor Keller stated that there may have been harsh words but that the City
staff, while critiquing the County program, was trying not to make it
be a "blood bath."
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Mr. Haws stated that this was a good example of wasting a lot of time
during a meeting asking questions that could have been asked prior to the
meeting. He stated that he was ready to vote and would be leaving at
1:30. Ms. Miller stated she felt this item should be held over until the
next meeting and a public hearing should be held. Ms. Smith stated she
would like a response to this since the deadline is April 7. Mr. Long
responded that they could not meet the deadline if it were held over.
Mr. Delay felt the staff had responded to issues raised by the Council;
the question is how to get the most effective use for the monies spent.
There are differences in approach between the two staffs but apparently
there are ways for this to be resolved. He does not have a problem with
the City and County pursuing separate models of implementing the program.
It will probably be necessary to hold this item over. Ms. Schue stated
she agreed with Mr. Delay and Ms. Miller. She thought the discussion wa~
of a philosophical nature on what the most effective structure should be.
She further stated that it would be inequitable for a City Councilor to
serve on the board in the same way that a County Commissioner does since
City Councilors are not paid. If there are constructive facts that need to
heard then the council should listen. Mr. Miller stated if the item would
be held over they would not be able to get the letter to Seattle by
Monday, April 7.
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Ms. Smith moved, seconded by Mr. Obie, that council approve Staff
Recommendation B--City/County program operator/consortium board--
in concept; that staff begin drafting the necessary paperwork and
information to send to the Department of Labor within the time
guidelines; that if the council desires to have additional input
and/or a change of direction at their next meeting, they will have
the right to do so; but that in essence the process is to be
started or the possibility of a consortium would be lost.
Mayor Keller restated the motion: "The motion is to approve
Staff Recommendation B in concept and it would be discussed next
week; staff is to go ahead with the necessary work."
Mr. Lieuallen stated he was in opposition to the motion and was angry that
they are now up against a tight time line. Mr. Delay stated that the
council set this meeting up without calling a public hearing; if someone
is at fault it is the council. Council has a responsibility to make
timely decisions. He would hear from any interested parties today. He is
not sure he supports the motion and asked for clarification. Ms. Smith
stated the intent of the motion was to direct staff to move toward the
consortium or the City would not have the opportunity to work as a consor-
tium for the next year. Mr. Long stated that they must present what the
model would look like to the Department of Labor.
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Mr. Delay stated that the council should hear from people who wish to
speak at this time.
Mr. Haws left the meeting.
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Ms. Schue stated she would not like to have the letter mailed until after
input was received. She is comfortable with having staff work with the
assumption of approval. Mayor Keller noted this is not a new item of
discussion; negotiations have been going on for a long time.
Mr. Long stated if the motion passed, staff could prepare correspondence
and it could be available at the Wednesday, April 2, council meeting for
review prior to mailing the application.
Ms. Miller stated she would like to discuss the merits of the proposal and
stated she dislikes the process, but thinks it is the council's own fault.
Mr. Obie left the meeting.
Ms. Smith stated the intent of the motion was to approve in concept the
proposal as recommended by staff and next week would provide an opportunity
to reaffirm or overturn that decision. Mayor Keller stated if public
input is desired, it should be advertised as a public hearing and both
sides should have the opportunity to respond.
Mr. Lieuallen said people had been involved in this process for a long
time and he has a problem with approving "in concept" a particular model
at this time.
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Mr. Delay stated the problem with having a public hearing later, once the
documents are prepared, is that it would mislead the public. There would
not be adequate time to prepare documents for a different option. He
thought, that whoever was there at this time should be heard.
Mayor Keller stated that three councilors have a 2 p.m. meeting.
Providing public input:
Cynthia Wooten, 670 West 10th Avenue, stated she was at the meeting to
urge the council to support a single consortium implementing the CETA
program. She stated the City could not afford having a training program
isolated from all other elements in the county. Eugene-Springfield is a
single labor market. However, residents are kept from jobs because of
residency. They move on a temporary or permanent basis in hopes of
getting a job. A joint program would be less costly.
Jim Williams, 738 Sunnyside Drive, expressed appreciation to the council
for listening. He manages a CETA program with 12 people and has been
dealing with an efficient County staff. He felt the real lssues are a
single labor market and administrative duplication should be reduced
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rather than increased. Adoption of Proposal B would increase duplica-
tion. He supports a full consortium. From a service provider's point of
view, two programs would work as a disadvantage, not an 'advantage. The
City and County should work together on economic development. Lane
Interagency Network passed a resolution to encourage local government to
state opposition to the residency requirements to the Federal government,
to cooperatively encourage economic development between the City and
County, and to eliminate administrative duplication.
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Liz Webb, Lane County employee, stated that in regard to Attachment 0 of
the staff memo, the County would like to clarify some items. The cost of
entering employment was an estimate. Not all prime sponsors in the area
have completed the close-outs necessary to obtain actual figures. The
Department of labor updated these figures and they are open to question.
The employment rate in Item II -B may look low, but 'the County has made an
effort in serving minorities, disadvantaged youth, handicapped youth, and
juvenile offenders and those groups normally take more time. In regard to
the item of Titles 11-0 and VI, she thought the County had done a good
job. The City program agent has also done a good job in these two areas.
Twenty-seven percent of their enrollment in YETP is juvenile offenders.
In regard to administrative cost, for a $13-million program, $1.8 million
was budgeted for administration which would be 13.8 percent. In regard to
intake, she considers Mr. Miller's statements to be incorrect. Eligibility
requirements determine who will be served by programs 11-0 and VI.
Philip Miller, 580 West 8th Avenue, stated that LINK is very concerned.
They strongly endorse the comprehensive consortium model. One major
concern is that the City staff feels they have no control over what they
refer to as lithe Lane County CETA Program." Twelve of the 15 members of
the advisory council are prominent Eugene residents. Before Eugene became
a program agent, city of Eugene residents had access to 100 percent of all
the CETA jobs and 60-70 percent of these were filled by Eugene residents.
Public hearing was closed.
Mr. Lieuallen stated that according to the staff report, Model C seems to
be the best way to go. Accepting Model C seems to be the message until
the end of this report. At that time, staff states that Recommendation
B, or if not B then A, would be the one to choose. He stated he would
like to see Model C endorsed with strong emphasis on contracting services.
Mayor Keller stated he would support the motion and feels that the council
has a primary responsibilty to accept staff's position to ensure good
management with a minimum of administrative cost. He is not saying that
the City and County cannot eventually get together and solve differences,
but it would be in the City's best interest to support the staff report.
Ms. Miller stated she would vote for the motion. She does not see that
intergovernmental departments have worked and does not see that this one
would. The expectation is that the City's overhead would be lower than
the County's. She would expect user groups to inform City staff if this
were not the case, or if they were not being served more effectively.
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Mr. Delay stated he agreed with Ms. Miller. He said there is an issue of
residency and City staff feels they can produce more effective delivery
systems. He is willing to take the risk that staff can do that. He wants
to see the program working. Ms. Schue stated agreement with Mr. Delay and
Ms. Miller, but stated she hears others who do not agree and feels the
staff will prove them wrong.
Roll call vote; motion carried 4:1, with Councilors Delay. Smith,
Miller, and Schue voting aye and Councilor Lieuallen voting
no.
The meeting was adjourned to April 2, 1980.
Respectfully submitted,
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Don Allen
Acting City Manager
(Recorded by Lynda Nelson)
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