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Eugene City Council
Regular Meeting
Council Chamber--Eugene City Hall
January 13, 2003
7:30 p.m.
COUNCILORS PRESENT: Betty Taylor, Scott Meisner, David Kelly, Nancy Nathanson, George
Poling, Gary Pap~, Bonny Bettman, Jennifer Solomon.
CITY COUNCIL MEETING
Mayor James D. Torrey called the meeting to order.
1.PUBLIC FORUM
Julie Fischer, 778 Elm Street, representing the River Road Urban Services Committee, said her
committee was waiting for a staff report that would allocate funding for the next cycle. She said
the most important thing was to update the neighborhood plan and to increase communication
with the City of Eugene. She said this would help build a more cohesive neighborhood.
Bruce Miller, PO Box 50968, Eugene, reported that students at the University of Oregon were
discussing how to allocate funds for more than 100 different student organizations.
Zachary Vishanoff, 1917 East 17th Street, said no more money should be spent on
neighborhood refinement plans since they seemed to be brushed aside as "window dressing."
Mr. Vishanoff raised concern over a Eugene Water & Electric Board project going on in Umatilla,
Oregon.
Mr. Vishanoff expressed concern about removing the median on Franklin Boulevard for the Bus
Rapid Transit project and possible pedestrian accidents.
Bobby Green Sr., 125 East 8th Avenue, spoke as the community response chair for the local
National Association for the Advancement of Colored People (NAACP) and as a Lane County
Commissioner. He spoke in support of renaming Centennial Boulevard after Dr. Martin Luther
King. He said the local chapter of the NAACP had the same goal for some time. He noted that
the University of Oregon had also expressed an interest in the idea. He submitted, for the
record, a letter of support for the idea from Dan Williams, University of Oregon Vice President of
Administration. He thanked Councilor Bettman for bringing up the idea. He said it was the right
thing to do.
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David Sonichsen, 2435 Skyline Boulevard, thanked the mayor for mentioning the talking stones
in Alton Baker Park that had been recently installed in Alton Baker Park. The stone have
Calapooya Indian names for the area written on them.
Kevin Matthews, Friends of Eugene, no address given, urged the council not to move forward
with approval of the Royal Avenue Node. He said it was contrary to the objectives of nodal
development. He acknowledged that a lot of good staff work had gone into the node but
stressed that this could overcome the fact that proposed development would cover wetlands and
traditional farmland.
Speaking to election of council officers, Mr. Matthews urged the council to keep its system of
rotation rather than coming up with a new system.
Kevin Clark, no address given, expressed his hope that the new governor might have some
influence on the State legislature regarding putting children first.
Nick Urhausen, 2858 Warren Street, expressed his hope that the new councilors would work
hard to represent the people in the wards that elected them.
Mr. Urhausen raised concern that the council was chasing business away from Eugene.
In response to a question from Mayor Torrey regarding when an answer could be delivered to Ms.
Fischer's group, City Manager Carlson said the staff report would not go to the Budget
Committee until April.
Councilor Pap8 thanked Ms. Fischer for coming to the forum. He also thanked Commissioner
Green for speaking in support of changing Centennial Drive to Martin Luther King Boulevard.
Councilor Bettman thanked Commissioner Green for his comments.
Councilor Kelly thanked Ms. Fischer for reminding the council of its obligation. He also thanked
Commissioner Green for his efforts in renaming Centennial Boulevard. He thanked Mr.
Sonnichsen and his committee for their efforts.
II.ACTION: Election of City Council Officers for 2003
Councilor Kelly expressed his hope that the votes for council officers would be unanimous.
Councilor Kelly, seconded by Councilor Taylor, moved to appoint Councilor
Bettman as Council Vice President. Roll call vote; the motion failed, 5:3;
councilors Kelly, Taylor, and Bettman voting in favor.
Councilor Bettman said she would prefer not to be in the center of a debate over council officers
but stressed the importance of giving the people in the community the reassurance that their
elected officials would conduct themselves in a "civil manner." She said the election of council
officers was not a personality contest but was an issue of inclusiveness. She said there had
been efforts by some of the councilors to create a litmus test for political philosophy on boards
and commissions and agenda items and opined that now that test was being extended to the
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election of council officers. She said her constituents expected that she, as a councilor, would
have a fair and equal opportunity to participate in the processes of council operations. She said
it was discrimination when a majority of council excluded a minority from full participation in
council processes. She said expressed her hope that there would be a reconsideration of that
vote.
Councilor Poling, seconded by Councilor Pap~, moved to appoint Councilor
Nathanson as council Vice President.
Councilor Kelly questioned what was different about the current year from other years. He said
the role of a council officer was not a political role but a logistics and coordinating role. He said
the Eugene Code stated the person who had served the longest, and had not previously been
elected as council president, shall normally be elected as the council president. He said he
appreciated the work of Councilor Nathanson but expressed his disappointment in the failing
motion for Councilor Bettman.
Councilor Poling said just because something was done differently than it had been in the past
did not mean it was wrong. He said the City Code said nothing about a mandate for who would
be council officers. He said the upcoming year required proven leadership and someone who
could be objective and look at both sides of an issue in a fair and impartial way so that the
council could make decisions in a way that was best for the City in general. He believed that
Councilor Nathanson had that ability and had demonstrated it in previous years. He said she had
the ability to put aside personal agendas to guide the council in the right direction for the overall
community.
Councilor Bettman indicated she would not support the motion. She asserted that it was
common knowledge that Councilor Nathanson's personal agenda was to be mayor and that a
vice chair position would mean that she would be council president while she was involved in the
mayoral campaign. She said this would be a beneficial position for her to be in while
campaigning and questioned whether this was actually setting aside personal agendas for what
was best for the City. She reiterated the importance of a civil process that was inclusive of all
constituencies and respected philosophical differences. She quoted from the book, All I Ever
Really Need to Know I Learned In Kindergarten: "Share everything, play fair, and don't take
things that aren't yours."
Councilor Taylor said she was stunned by the failed motion to appoint Councilor Bettman as
council vice president. She said the vote was an insult to Councilor Bettman and her
constituents, adding that any one of the councilors was capable of being council president. She
said the council president did not decide issues and occasionally presided over meetings when
the mayor was away. She said the majority of the motions made by the council president were
already prepared by staff. She said Councilor Bettman was the obvious choice and was
extremely well-qualified.
Councilor Pap~ noted that the reason for the prior unanimous votes was because the council had
contentious work sessions about who would be council officers. He noted that this had not been
done for the current year.
Councilor Meisner reiterated the statements of Councilor Pap~. He noted that Councilor
Nathanson had not been appointed council president after her term as vice president, adding that
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it had been a contentious and less-than-civil discussion even though the vote was unanimous.
He also noted that former Councilor Bobby Lee had been elected to the council presidency even
though he had never served as council vice president nor was he the senior councilor at the
time. He also expressed his agreement with Councilor Poling's comments regarding the
important need for the ability to listen to all points of view and speak for the Council as it made its
decisions by majority vote. He expressed his confidence in Councilor Nathanson's ability to do
just that.
Councilor Solomon asserted leadership was an earned position and not a right. She said there
was no discrimination, uncivil behavior, or political motivation about the decision. She stressed
that it was her right to vote for who she wanted and added that she did not feel the need to vote
for who had been a councilor the longest. She said she would be looking to the council officers
to help her be an effective councilor for Ward 6. She said Councilor Nathanson was a proven
leader and said she was looking forward to working with her as a council officer.
Councilor Nathanson acknowledged that past council officers had been unanimously chosen but
only after several rounds of discussion had taken place. She noted that there was clear division
during those rounds of discussion. She said she appreciated the comments made on her behalf
but noted that she had not sought the position nor had she lobbied for it.
Regarding personal agendas, Councilor Nathanson said she had considered a position on the
State legislature as much as she had considered running for the office of mayor. She said each
time she had run for re-election it was because she felt committed to serving southwest and west
Eugene. She believed that being a council officer in a year when running for office would be a
disadvantage because it could put a person in awkward situations and placed increased
demands on a person's time but stressed that she could meet the commitments of being a
council officer.
Councilor Kelly remarked that councilors were trying to rewrite history in that there had been no
dissensions in work session over council officers in 2000-2002. He acknowledged that 1999 had
been a challenging process with some discussion over officers.
Councilor Taylor suggested, as a compromise, that Councilor Nathanson be appointed president
and Councilor Bettman be appointed vice president.
On the original motion to elect Councilor Nathanson council vice president:
Roll call vote; the motion passed, 5:3; councilors Kelly, Bettman, and Taylor
voting in opposition.
Councilor Meisner, seconded by Councilor Solomon, moved to appoint
Councilor Pap~ as council president.
Councilor Bettman said the council was not working in the interest of the community when it did
not move forward in a balanced manner and make sure that all constituencies had a fair
opportunity to participate in the process. She said she would vote against the motion because
there would be two people with politically consistent philosophies elected as council officers.
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Councilor Kelly said he would vote against the motion because he did not believe there was any
relevance to general political outlooks of council officers. He said what mattered to him were the
integrity and professional courtesy in which the council had conducted its business the past few
years. He expressed a hope that the council could move past the issue and continue to work in
a collegial manner but commented that he had doubts that this would happen because
professional courtesy had been "thrown out the window."
Councilor Taylor agreed with Councilor Kelly. She said the vote was setting the tone for incivility
in future council actions.
Roll call vote; the motion passed, 5:3; councilors Taylor, Bettman, and Kelly
voting in opposition.
Mayor Torrey commented that he had intentionally had not participated in the discussion because
it was a decision that councilors should make, but stressed that the vote was not "a railroad job."
He noted that the previous Thursday he had gone out of his way to appoint Councilor Bettman to
one of the most prestigious committees the council participated in (the Metropolitan Policy
Committee), and went on to say that he had nominated her to be the vice chair of that group. He
said the Metropolitan Policy Committee was a conflict resolution body in which every councilor
had indicated a desire to participate. He stressed the importance of the public understanding
that, while there were differences of opinion on the council, there was a diversity of
representation on the various committees of the City and through the City Council.
Mayor Torrey observed the evening's discussion was civil, even though there had been
disagreement among the councilors, and added that the civility of the discussion was
appropriate.
III.CONSENT CALENDAR
A. Approval of City Council Minutes
B. Approval of Tentative Working Agenda
C. Adoption of Resolution 4747 Authorizing Lane County to Assess Benefitting
Properties Under the Jurisdiction of the City for Improvements to River Road
between Beacon Drive and Carthage Road and Beacon Drive between River Road
and Grace Drive
Councilor Pap~, seconded by Councilor Nathanson, moved to approve the
items on the Consent Calendar.
Councilors Bettman, Nathanson, and Kelly noted corrections to the minutes submitted by e-mail.
Councilor Bettman pulled Item C.
Councilor Nathanson pulled Item B.
Roll call vote; the remaining item passed unanimously.
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Regarding Item C, Councilor Bettman said she pulled the item because she objected to the way
the funding package was put together. She noted that the assessments left over $867,000 for
the County Road fund to pick up. She said this was a demonstrative example of why she had
voted against the Transportation System Maintenance Fee. She said, if the project was being
done by the City of Eugene, the remainder of the project would be financed by SDCs and noted
that the current financing was coming out of the County Road Fund which could be used for
maintenance and preservation instead of increasing capacity. She said she would vote against
the resolution.
Roll call vote; Item C passed, 6:2; councilors Bettman and Taylor voting in
opposition.
Regarding Item B, Councilor Nathanson said the work session on a living wage was to be held a
day before the vote on Measure 28, the State tax measure. She noted that, even if the measure
passed there would be huge budget problems for the fiscal year. She said a discussion of a
living wage ordinance would involve a potential budget impact to the City and commented that
the discussion needed to wait until the results of the funding measure were known.
Councilor Nathanson, seconded by Councilor Meisner, moved to change the
tentative working agenda by switching the work session on Endangered
Species Act salmon strategies for the work session on a living wage
standard.
Councilor Kelly noted that the council had passed a motion to work through the living wage issue
in time for the beginning of the budget process. He further noted that the item had already been
postponed twice. He said he could not support postponing the matter again.
Councilor Bettman said it was merely a work session and any action taken was subject to the full
Budget Committee. She said it would not make sense to postpone the matter since the work
needed to be done in a timely way to forward on to the Budget Committee. She remarked that
any budget action was contingent on what happened with the state funding measure and other
alternative funding options.
Councilor Taylor said she would oppose the motion because the discussion had been postponed
too many times.
Councilor Kelly offered a friendly amendment, which was accepted, to have
the discussion on January 29.
Mayor Torrey said he would vote in favor of the initial motion but would vote against the amended
motion. He said, while the council would know the outcome of the vote on January 29, the
council would not know what the legislature intended to do about any proposed budget cuts.
Roll call vote; the motion, as amended, passed, 5:3; councilors Poling,
Meisner, and Solomon voting in opposition.
Roll call vote; Item B, as amended, passed unanimously.
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IV. PUBLIC HEARING: An Ordinance Concerning the Penalty for Violation of Section 4.240
of the Eugene Code, Use and Possession of Less than One Ounce of Marijuana;
Amending Section 4.990 of the Eugene Code, 1971
Marilyn Nelson, Court Administrator, provided the staff report. She said the proposal was to
raise the financial penalty of possession for less than an ounce of marijuana from $100 to $250.
She said the increase in the penalty would make it the same as the penalty for Minor in
Possession of Alcohol. She said the intent of the increased penalty was to provide more of a
financial incentive for individuals to participate in a new, Iow cost diversion program.
Mayor Torrey opened the public hearing.
Judge Wayne Allen, 777 Pearl Street, said the intent of the increased penalty was to help build
on the success of the "Busted" education program which had been established in cooperation
with the Substance Abuse p Prevention Program at the University of Oregon. He said the
program had been very successful in terms of participation since most people preferred to go
through the diversion program and were then able to make choices based on education rather
than beliefs.
Judge Allen said the $100 dollar penalty for possession of less than an ounce of marijuana was
not enough because the cost of the diversion program was $90. He said when people were
faced with the choice of a $90 diversion program or a $100 penalty they chose to pay the extra
ten dollars. He said the planned diversion program would be a one-day program and would be
useful particularly for students who, if convicted, would be ineligible for further student loans. He
stressed that the increase was not to raise revenue but to make a workable diversion program.
Todd Dalotto, Compassion Center, 1055 Bertelson Road, said his nonprofit organization
provided support services and education to medical marijuana patients. He remarked that the
Oregon Medical Marijuana Program had a fee of $150, which was prohibitively expensive for
some patients, that provided them legal protection. He said most patients who were medically
disabled were also financially disabled and added that he had seen many who could not afford
the card who were still using marijuana and were subject to sanction by law enforcement. He
opined that there should be no fine or penalty for possession of under an ounce of marijuana. He
said an incentive for diversion was moot for patients who used marijuana to ease their pain and
would continue to use it since it improved the quality of their life.
Mr. Dalotto noted that Europe and Canada were all moving toward decriminalization of marijuana
for medical and recreational purposes. He remarked that Eugene was a progressive community
that needed to be following in that direction instead of moving in the wrong way by increasing
penalties for possession. He suggested that there be a discussion of removing all penalties for
simple possession of marijuana and urged the council to vote against any increases of penalties.
Alan Jackson, Whiteaker neighborhood, said the laws against marijuana were based on
inaccurate science and medical misinformation. He said the law would only affect the people
who could least afford to pay the penalty since, in his perception, it was Iow-income people who
were most often targeted by police. He urged the council not to pass the ordinance.
Dan Koozer, PO Box 10957, Eugene, noted that the State of Oregon had voted down re-
criminalization of less than an ounce of marijuana by a wide margin. He remarked that there
should be no penalty for less than an ounce.
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John Walsh, 2555 Roosevelt Boulevard, noted that Europe and Canada were in the process of
rescinding marijuana laws. He said the United States should follow suit. He raised concern that
only poor people would be harmed by the proposed raise in penalties.
Chris Pender, 266 High Street, raised concern over additional bureaucracy that would be
created by increasing penalties and having diversion classes.
Aaron Fredrick, 2062 Hilyard Street, said raising the fine so more people would take diversion
classes did not make sense. He urged the council to take a critical look at who they represented
and vote accordingly.
David Callen, 6025 Main Street, Springfield, said he had never seen marijuana do as much harm
as legal alcohol. He said marijuana was medically beneficial and helped sick people with their
pain. He expressed his difficulty in understanding how the state could make money from
cigarettes and alcohol when they were proven killers and still be against marijuana.
Cindy Noblitt, 5550 Franklin Boulevard, spoke against the ordinance. She said raising a penalty
as an incentive to students to enter a diversion program was not a good enough reason. She
said there were plenty of other incentives for people to enter a diversion program and added that
the majority of medicinal and recreational users had no desire or need to go through a diversion
program and would not change their behavior because of the ordinance. She said the young and
the poor would be the only people who were impacted by the ordinance.
Jeff Sears, 190 North Polk, noted that the federal government had released a figure showing
that 80 million Americans had smoked marijuana. He stressed that those people were citizens of
the United States. He said the ordinance was nothing but repression of poor people. He urged
the council to vote against the ordinance. He raised concern that Eugene was beginning to
resemble Mississippi in its efforts to become a "lily white" community. He urged the council to
exercise a degree of humanity and vote against the increase.
Mayor Torrey closed the public hearing and called for council comments/questions.
Councilor Bettman said she had been prepared to support the proposal. She said she disagreed
that recreational use of marijuana was harmless. Councilor Bettman said that she was aware of
the benefits of medical marijuana and raised concern over court discretion when a person was
not using the drug recreationally. Judge Allen responded that there would be court discretion in
the case of someone using marijuana for medical reasons. He stressed that not everyone who
came to court for a possession charge would get a $250 fine, adding that the fine would be
based on considerations of individual cases.
Councilor Taylor raised concern that the ordinance would only hurt the young and the poor.
Judge Allen agreed that even a $100 penalty was a lot of money to many people. He said the
court would be mindful of the financial status of those who came before him and would make
decisions accordingly. He said the person who had the maximum $250 fine imposed would be,
for example, someone returning to court for the third or fourth time for the same offense.
Councilor Kelly thanked those who testified, noting that the discussion was not about the pros or
cons of marijuana use. He said a discussion of legalization had to be at the State level. He
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raised concern over the medical marijuana issue, pointing out there was a need to fix the medical
marijuana program for Iow-income people.
In response to a question from Councilor Kelly regarding whether the diversion program would be
ready if the ordinance was passed on January 27, Judge Allen said the program would be
available.
In response to a question from Councilor Pap~ regarding whether there would be any follow up
data on how the diversion program was impacting marijuana users or if there was an impact,
Judge Allen acknowledged that a one-day class was probably not enough to change the opinion
of most people, but added that it was better than nothing. He stressed the importance of making
whose decisions from an educated standpoint.
In response to a question from Councilor Meisner regarding whether a medical marijuana card
was required before the court even considered it as a defense, Judge Allen said it would be used
as a defense if a person was charged and had a hearing. He added that he would not fine
someone who presented a letter from their doctor.
Councilor Poling reiterated that the question was not one of pro or con use of marijuana but was
a question of making a diversion program available. He said if one person could benefit from a
diversion program by becoming free of alcohol or other drugs then it was worth it for the
community.
V. ACTION: Adoption of Resolution 4746 Naming the Ruth Bascom Riverbank Trail System
Councilor Pap~, seconded by Councilor Nathanson, moved to adopt
Resolution 4746 naming the Ruth Bascom Riverbank Trail System.
Bicycle/Alternative Modes Coordinator Diane Bishop said Ruth Bascom had been active in City
activities since the early 1970s and had always carried a vision of a community trail system.
In response to a question from Councilor Pap~ regarding when the naming ceremony would be
held, Ms. Bishop said it would be held at noon, at the north end of the Greenway Bridge, on
Friday, January 31.
Roll call vote; the motion passed unanimously.
VI.ACTION: Implementing Ordinances for Royal Nodal Development Area
Ordinance One: An Ordinance Concerning the Royal Nodal Development Area;
Amending the Eugene-Springfield Metropolitan Area General Plan and the Bethel-
Danebo Refinement Plan; Adopting a Severability Clause; and Providing an Effective
Date; and
Ordinance Two: An Ordinance Concerning the Royal Node Special Area Zone;
Amending Sections 9.1030, 9.8030, 9.8865, and 9.95~0 of the Eugene Code, ~97~ ;
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Adding Sections 9.3800, and 9.3823 to that code; Adopting a Severability Clause; and
Providing an Effective Date
Councilor Pap~, seconded by Councilor Nathanson, moved that the City
Council adopt Council Bill 4818, an ordinance concerning the Royal Nodal
Development Area; amending the Eugene-Springfield Metropolitan Area
General Plan and the Bethel-Danebo Refinement Plan; adopting a
severability clause; and providing an effective date.
In response to a question from Councilor Kelly regarding possible increases in vehicle miles,
Engineering Data Services Manager Fred McVey said the nature of nodal development, with its
provisions for pedestrian and bicycle movement, would mitigate and lessen vehicle miles from a
typical Iow-density residential area.
In response to a question from Councilor Bettman regarding the financing for the new
infrastructure for the stormwater conveyance system, Mr. McVey said the nature of the funding
sources were really options that were presented, primarily for Public Works staff, in consideration
for constructing the capital improvements program. He said the draft Capital Improvement
Program document, that would come before the council in a few weeks, would not have a utility
fund as one of the methods for financing the stormwater system.
Councilor Nathanson said she was extremely impressed with the staff work in the plan. She said
the council had an opportunity to approve something that would be very different from ordinary
design.
In response to a question from Councilor Pap~ regarding what proportion of the wetlands in that
area were in private ownership, Mr. McVey said that virtually all, with the exception of eight acres,
was in private ownership.
Roll call vote; the motion passed unanimously.
Councilor Pap~, seconded by Councilor Nathanson, moved that the City
Council adopt Council Bill 4819, an ordinance concerning the Royal Node
Special Area Zone; amending Sections 9.1030, 9.8030, 9.8865, and 9.9510
of the Eugene Code, 1971; adding Sections 9.3800 - 9.3823 to that code;
adopting a severability clause; and providing an effective date. Roll call vote;
the motion passed unanimously.
VII.ACTION: Appointments to Boards, Committees, and Commissions
Citizen Involvement Committee
Councilor Pap~, seconded by Councilor Nathanson, moved to appoint Jack
Combs to Position 5 on the Citizen Involvement Committee for a three-year
term beginning November 1, 2002, and ending October 31, 2005. Roll call
vote; the motion passed unanimously.
Councilor Pap~, seconded by Councilor Nathanson, moved to appoint Kevin
Matthews to Position 3 of the Citizen Involvement Committee for a three-year
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term beginning November 1, 2002, and ending October 31, 2005. Roll call
vote; the motion passed unanimously.
Councilor Pap~, seconded by Councilor Nathanson, moved to appoint Jon
Belcher to Position 8 on the Citizen Involvement Committee for a three-year
term beginning November 1, 2002, and ending October 31, 2005. Roll call
vote; the motion passed unanimously.
Pofice Commission
Councilor Pap~, seconded by Councilor Nathanson, moved to reappoint
Andrea Ortiz to Position 9 on the Police Commission for a three-year term
beginning November 1, 2002, and ending October 31, 2005. Roll call vote;
the motion passed unanimously.
Metropolitan Wastewater Management Commission
Councilor Pap~, seconded by Councilor Nathanson, moved to reappoint
Deborah Evans to Position 3 on the Metropolitan Wastewater Management
Commission for a three-year term beginning February 1, 2003, and ending
January 31, 2006. Roll call vote; the motion passed unanimously.
Lane Regional Air Poflution Authority
Councilor Pap~, seconded by Councilor Nathanson, moved Gary Rayor to
Position 3 on the Lane Regional Air Pollution Authority for a three-year term
beginning November 1, 2002, and ending October 31, 2005. Roll call vote;
the motion passed unanimously.
East Alton Baker Park Citizen Planning Committee
Councilor Pap~, seconded by Councilor Nathanson, moved to appoint Art
Farley to Position 3, Ed Fredette to Position 6, Glen Love to Position 7,
Susan Reddoor to Position 10, and Ken Rivernider to Position 13 on the East
Alton Baker Park Citizen Planning Committee for three-year terms beginning
November 1, 2002, and ending October 31, 2005. Roll call vote; the motion
passed unanimously.
Lane Workforce Partnership
Councilor Pap~, seconded by Councilor Nathanson, moved to reappoint Jerry
Stilter to Position 10 on the Lane
Workforce Partnership for a three-
year term beginning January 1, 2003
and ending December 31, 2005. Roll
call vote; the motion passed
unanimously.
VIII.EXECUTIVE SESSION
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Mayor Torrey adjourned the regular meeting of the City Council and called the council into
executive session pursuant to ORS 192.660 (1)(e).
The meeting adjourned at 10 p.m.
Respectfully submitted,
James R. Carlson
City Manager pro rem
(Recorded by Joe Sams)
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